November 28, 2007 at 9:12 pm #53492
There is a TV programme on Spanish tv tonight (11.45pm) which questions the impact of a massive golf urbanisation in a tiny Spanish village with just 150 inhabitants where a project plans to build three golf courses and 7,500 homes for up to 25,000 people.
As it is, the locals are having to be supplied with bottled water by the provincial government as the local water supply is unfit for human consumption. But why should such a minor detail like water supply stop such an ambitious project when there’s so much money to be made.
There are also concerns for the Spanish Imperial Eagle, a protected species which is in danger of extinction.
The regional government’s environmental department has failed to take account of its own plan for the recovery of the species – looks like someone conveniently forgot about the Eagle in their ‘enthusiasm’ for the project.
November 28, 2007 at 9:26 pm #76378
Well Charlie 😉
Its back to square 1
They are not going to build unless they have buyers?ARE THEY? 😕 😕
As you say were will it end.?
When there s no profit in the deal.
November 28, 2007 at 11:28 pm #76381
On this Frank, by asking “Will it ever end…?” I was meaning the sheer destruction and the impact of all this over-development (via greed and corruption?) that is ruining so much of Spain.
Will make the thread title clearer.
Work has already started ‘illegally’ on infrastructure for roads, and 60 hectares of pine woods have been destroyed.
How was that allowed if a nod and a wink wasn’t given?
And they estimate that up to 800 hectares of mature pine forest would be lost if the project were to go ahead.
Not to mention the Eagles …..
Would be interested in comments from anyone who sees the programme.
November 29, 2007 at 9:43 am #76384
i haven’t seen the prog’, but how sickening is this news. Why on earth are the authorities hell bent on ruining Spain? I know people will say it all comes down to supply and demand, money, but at what cost to the lanscape, forestry and the incredible eagles?……. Any, by the looks of things!
Words fail me on the disgust i feel for those giving the go ahead on projects such as this.
I think the time for outside forces to put Spains house in order is long overdue, it obviously cant manage it itself when it comes to building, justice etc.
November 29, 2007 at 11:19 am #76387
The anwers still the same, 👿
The greed and corruption will never stop when theres money to be made,just take this sick world in which we live in being destroyed.
This is not just a Spanish problem but as you say its something that you can debate. 🙁
November 29, 2007 at 1:13 pm #76388
Look at this mess that will happen in the last virgin piece of coast of murcia if nobody stop them:
November 29, 2007 at 5:20 pm #76389MelosineParticipant
Surely the answer is very simple.
If people didn’t desire to be multiple homeowners…for whatever reason 😉 young people could afford to buy and coastlines and green areas would not be eroded with 70% + empty buildings on developments with infrequently used golf courses using copious quanties of precious water.
Problem is people want it both ways. Those who can afford or just desire to…. buy. Builders build. Scenery destroyed. House prices explode out of proportion and if the property market should fall…well !!!
Just can’t have your cake and eat it.
November 29, 2007 at 5:55 pm #76391
It is the first time that I am studying the Costas in details, especially Costa Almeria and Costa Calida.
It is really hard to decide on which apartment to rent. There are hundreds and hundreds of under £200/week 2-3 bedroom apartments for Christmas week. Entire resorts (beach front,
golf front, mountain front) are advertising and none of them attracts any costumers…
And it seems that there NO RENTAL for 90% of them between January-May, even though many offer £100/week or £200/month.
This is quite bad for the owners and good for renters (if there is still anybody interested in vacationing in Spain who does not own property there…).
The result of the oveconstruction is a destroyed coast, many unhappy owners, many future unhappy builders. I wonder who will still be happy? The estate agents?
Anyway, if I still had the slightest intention to buy in Spain in the near future, now this has gone. There is so much offer to rent over there… Of course, if one retires in the near future than a purchase might be OK.
November 29, 2007 at 6:43 pm #76392
……..which is why it needs someone in authority with balls, to turnaround and say enough is enough, this land as it is, in its natural state is worth more than all the developers greed put together.They should be forced to respect it and leave it alone. Or is nothing sacred except the Euro?
November 29, 2007 at 7:08 pm #76393MelosineParticipant
…and the “investors” should vote with their feet .Although I fear it is already too late unfortunately.
November 29, 2007 at 7:29 pm #76394InezParticipant
I think most of them have unfortunately voted with their wallets….and lost!
November 30, 2007 at 9:10 am #76403
i think your’e right!
investors will go with what they hope will make money, do you really think issues such as landscape, forestry, eagles, locals way of life is really going to dent their concience enough to make them vote with their feet? Look at the mess on many parts of the coastline if you need evidence of greed over respect for the landscape. This project in my opinion like many other ruined parts of Spain would never have got of the ground had it not been for the greedy idiots in so called high places who gave the go ahead. Once permission is given and property offered in an area of once natural beauty, of course people will buy in to it (at some price?). It should just have never been given the green light in the first place, unless people are happy with what they see now?
November 30, 2007 at 12:07 pm #76407
Spain is not the only country wrecked by developers.
They build wherever there is a profit. The destroyed Turkey, Cyprus, Malta, Greece, they are now in the process of destroying Morocco, Turks and Caicos, Cape Verde and Egypt (among others).
My guess is that many developments in Spain will be levelled down in about 10-15 years from now as nobody will be interested to live/rent there. The ones near the Sea will remain but the ones inland will either be used fto accomodate unskilled workers or will be returned to mother nature.
November 30, 2007 at 1:23 pm #76409Black_PearParticipant
Spain is not the only country wrecked by developers.
You are correct.
I live in Worcester, England which was completely spoilt by developers 40 years ago and we still continue to get awful housing and buildings being developed this year.
Greed and profit will generally ensure that this continues around the world so long as there is a demand for cheap property.
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