[Anonymous]

I am loking att Costa Brava right know. Colder than in the south but greener and not som overdevelopt. Mallorca seems a bit similar.

I have followed the market since 2008 and it´s difficult to find a nice place thats not to expensive.

[Chopera]

I have been keeping an eye on the Javea area – but prices need to come down a lot more there to tempt me into making an offer. It’s not as pretty as parts of the Costa Brava but it’s still pretty enough, you get a longer season there, and it’s easy for me to drive there for a long weekend.

However if prices keep falling in Madrid I might switch my attention to buying a second property there instead (and rent our current place out). Prices seem to be genuinely coming down in Madrid and will continue to do so, whereas there are still a load of timewasters on the costas.

[angie]

Both Costa Brava and Majorca would be my choices over the Southern Costas, very pretty too. I think Majorca prices are holding up much better so don’t expect such good bargains there as in the overbuilt Southern Spain 😉

[Anonymous]

i have been looking one town down from chopera in moraira prices seem to be coming down slowly,i have a friend who lives outside llorett and would also think about buying there at the right price as i like tossa del mar

[Anonymous]

@Chopera wrote:

I have been keeping an eye on the Javea area – but prices need to come down a lot more there to tempt me into making an offer. It’s not as pretty as parts of the Costa Brava but it’s still pretty enough, you get a longer season there, and it’s easy for me to drive there for a long weekend.

However if prices keep falling in Madrid I might switch my attention to buying a second property there instead (and rent our current place out). Prices seem to be genuinely coming down in Madrid and will continue to do so, whereas there are still a load of timewasters on the costas.

Look guys, you are all missing the point. Spain is a corrupt evil country and regardless how property prices pan out in the next few years it doesn’t make sense to buy or live in Spain because transaction costs in buying and selling property in Spain are high and Spain’s economy is in a terrible state and it is totally corrupt. Come to my website, take a look at my website to see the truth about Spain.

The truth about Spain

[Chopera]

@jakesuper wrote:

@Chopera wrote:

I have been keeping an eye on the Javea area – but prices need to come down a lot more there to tempt me into making an offer. It’s not as pretty as parts of the Costa Brava but it’s still pretty enough, you get a longer season there, and it’s easy for me to drive there for a long weekend.

However if prices keep falling in Madrid I might switch my attention to buying a second property there instead (and rent our current place out). Prices seem to be genuinely coming down in Madrid and will continue to do so, whereas there are still a load of timewasters on the costas.

Look guys, you are all missing the point. Spain is a corrupt evil country and regardless how property prices pan out in the next few years it doesn’t make sense to buy or live in Spain because transaction costs in buying and selling property in Spain are high and Spain’s economy is in a terrible state and it is totally corrupt. Come to my website, take a look at my website to see the truth about Spain.

The truth about Spain

And if I find a house for €20k ? 😉

[Anonymous]

jake it might not to you but when like me you ache from broken bones when it is cold and damp in the uk the relief from it is priceless.
Its a lifestyle choice i wish to make and have done for a decade now.I couldn’t afford it back then but have some money now and if prices continue to fall and i buy in the place i like then to me it will be worth it.There doesn’t appear to be the same problems of illegal builds etc in this area and people i have spoken to who live there and have no intention of going home(as they can afford the lifestyle)
have convinced me this is the place for me to buy and retire to in 20 years (or less).
I am not going to rush in and blow all my money just yet as i hope to get a nice place i can then make my own as i am in the building trade and handy with the tools i can refurbish a place if i need to and get it to feel like home and if this means buying a place others wouldn’t then the price maybe even more affordable.
Spain has a bad rap we all know of the outragerous things that have happened and the state the economy is in but this doesn’t detract from the fact it is a nice place with nice people and great food still in some areas ok some have been ruined by the greed but spain is still where i want to be,and if misserable people like you are not going to be there its even more appealing.

[Anonymous]

Rent first dartboy!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

@itsme wrote:

Rent first dartboy!!!!!!

my in laws owned a place not 5 miles up the road been coming here on and off for 15years i know the pitfulls and i don’t intend to rush in and blow my cash i am only 44 so there is no rush and it will save me some cash on holidays too,i spent over 10k last year,i rent all the time when we come out and if someone was intending to move out who wasn’t really sure of where they wanted to be i would also say rent make sure you like the place and find out what its like at different times of the day and year.
My home work is done and has been since about 2007 and i have been waiting since then so another 2 or 3 years won’t hurt it may even save me money and hopefully things will improve as to the housing taxes and the like.I will use my uk based lawyer to buy when i do would never trust one out there even thou i do know a good one,

[Anonymous]

@dartboy wrote:

jake it might not to you but when like me you ache from broken bones when it is cold and damp in the uk the relief from it is priceless.
Its a lifestyle choice i wish to make and have done for a decade now.I couldn’t afford it back then but have some money now and if prices continue to fall and i buy in the place i like then to me it will be worth it.There doesn’t appear to be the same problems of illegal builds etc in this area and people i have spoken to who live there and have no intention of going home(as they can afford the lifestyle)
have convinced me this is the place for me to buy and retire to in 20 years (or less).
I am not going to rush in and blow all my money just yet as i hope to get a nice place i can then make my own as i am in the building trade and handy with the tools i can refurbish a place if i need to and get it to feel like home and if this means buying a place others wouldn’t then the price maybe even more affordable.
Spain has a bad rap we all know of the outragerous things that have happened and the state the economy is in but this doesn’t detract from the fact it is a nice place with nice people and great food still in some areas ok some have been ruined by the greed but spain is still where i want to be,and if misserable people like you are not going to be there its even more appealing.

When one thinks of Spain one tends to think of the lovely climate, the beautiful scenery, the beaches and the lifestyle but this shouldn’t blind people to what Spain has tragically become over the past decade, a corrupt sleazy greedy cesspit of a country. I remember when I was last in Spain back in 2002/2003 and it was at the height of their insane and demented housing boom and you can sense its effects all around you and the air seemed to be so thick with the stench of greed and corruption that you could almost cut the air with a knife. In my travels around the Costas back then you couldn’t but avoid the fact that Spain became a very expensive place to live in and for all the wrong reasons, because of high house prices and not because of a successful diverse economy which Spain never had and will never have. Spain’s housing boom was based on the assumption that people will always want to live in a place in the Sun and this together with the notion that house prices could only ever go up helped to propel the boom to insane levels and this has effectively destroyed Spain as a decent country to live and work in. Spain is now in ruins and any thoughts of retiring to Spain should be discarded as out of date thinking. Set aside any romantic illusions you may have of Spain, that is a thing of the past. Spain became seduced by greed and corruption and sold its soul to the Devil and when you sell your soul to the Devil there is no going back. You go to Spain and Spain will make sure that it extracts every penny piece from you.

I should point out that practically everything I say about Spain I can also say about Britain but then again even the dogs in the street know what Britain is really like.

[Anonymous]

so you sit behind your keyboard ranting on a place you haven’t been to for 10 years 🙄
Yes spain is different now you can no longer buy a beer for 50p but cheap isn’t something that concerns me as it is still cheaper than the uk on the whole.If being that bit more expensive keeps the chav’s away i see that as a good thing.I can think of nothing worse than a bunch of pissed up northeners with guts over hanging their jeans walking down the beachfront.
Intergrating into a community and being part of it and feeling settled and welcome is something i expect to get abit more of in spain,where i live i know my next door neighbours and thats about it in the area and i have lived here for 15years.
As you say there is greed and coruption here in the uk to atleast in spain its not all a big secret.

If you feel that spain is such a sleazy cessspit why don’t you go away and let those that have an intrest in going there get on with what they want without spewing your tripe,yes its not purfect, yes it has corruption yes there has been greedy people that have preyed on the dreams of the rose tinted hoards,yes i wish it could go back to the way it was before the big euro dream took hold and made everything more expensive but it won’t and for all its sins spain is still a great place.
Not for the investor or those looking to make a few quid but for those with finances that allow a safe income to have their place in the sun it is now begining to be more attractive than it has in previous years and for my health a few months there with a dryer climate it will always be attractive.
Maybe with the paramount park that is to be built just 5 miles from my house i could let it out to an agent and make enough to cover renting over there and buy another place here to also rent out and give me an income so i don’t have to spend my savings.

[Anonymous]

I agree with you dartboy.

Myself, I would like to move to Gran Canaria. I have gone there many times and made friends with expats and locals there. Yes, the south is very touristy and does not exactly attract the type of tourists that charm me (although the type seems to differ per country. I know the Dutch -in general- are not exactly the type you want on your birthday party). But it would allow me to start living there and get away with English while I learn the language. The weather is usually good all year around. And the tourist industry can allow me to find some sort work to provide an income.
I can do this now as the American company I worked for offshored my job and paid me a handsome sum to leave. I am now in my early fifties and had been thinking about a change of lifestyle for years. Now I do have the opportunity, thanks to the company pay out. And if I don’t make the change now, it will probably never happen. Finding a new job in NL would be difficult anyway at my age. So I am going. Against all advice or horror stories on internet. We all know what situation Spain is in, and the situation is probably even worse on GC. Still there are opportunities I think. I’ll set up my own company (never done that before), find a niche market and start. I speak Dutch, English and German and hopefully Spanish soon as well.
I can afford to buy a small apartment (a villa with seaview and a pool would be nice, but don’t have the funds for that!) with the gains from selling my place in NL and the severance package money to help me out for a while to cover living costs, but will indeed rent first and then start looking around. Probably outside the tourist area. I wouldn’t get a mortgage anyway since I won’t have a job from day one. I was told a lot of apartments in the south of Gran Canaria mostly never make it to the internet, but are found mostly by word to mouth and via friends or network circle.
It can become a success or a total disaster, but then I at least tried to give my life a different twist.
Spanish friends of mine who live there can help with the right lawyer, gestor, help with formalities etc. so I am comfortable with that.

Now, selling my place in NL is the only thing holding up the move……

Good luck with your efforts!

[Anonymous]

Stop feeding the loony. The topic of this thread is clear.

[DBMarcos99]

I’m visiting Valencia this month (I have a possible client who’s looking into setting up a website with me), and I’ll be looking around, as it seems some of the biggest flat bargains are in this city. It’s not my number one preferred option – that would be Madrid, but prices there are a lot more expensive for what you get. My other half is quite keen on Valencia too, but we may compromise and choose Granada, which also is not so expensive. I doubt prices are going to shoot up soon, so we will be taking our time and looking at those areas at different times of the year. I know what Madrid and Valencia are like in winter from various spells in both cities, but I have to gauge the situation in Granada.

[angie]

😆 It’s like Bagatelle Nessy 😆 First you have to decide on the City, Town, Village that you like best, (too many options cloud your judgement) that you want to spend the majority of your time in, then it’s better to buy the smallest place you can afford in the best area, rather than the largest place in the crap area, same as in London, you know it’s the first rule in buying property in somewhere you want to live. You’ll nearly always get your money back too 🙄

That’s why so many were misled in Spain’s boom, too much choice on huge urbanisations 😥

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