[Anonymous]

Hi, ( EDITED 11.44hrs. 20-Sept.2006 )

I made an earlier posting in connection with Los Lagos de Santa Maria Golf / Eralia where we have lost our Marbella court action for breach of contract.

I have just thought,

Do you know of a responsible – trustworthy – etc etc. English / Spanish lawyer ( in Spain ) able and prepared to carry out litigation work in Malaga appeals courts.

( thanks Drakan )

I have in the next 5 days to instruct our Spanish Puerto Banus lawyers to continue the fight —or give up!!

OR, perhaps I will be lucky and find a lawyer able & willing to help.

I also believe we have a legal action possibility against our Spanish lawyers for negligence etc. in the errors they have created which have ” dropped us in it “.

[Anonymous]

David
Try this link
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor/action=lawfirmsearch.law
It will give you a list of lawyers who are regulated by the law Society of England and Wales who have expertise in dealing with Spanish property mattters including professional negligence. These English law firms have to conform to standards of professional practice as set out on their website!!
I have been advised that litigating against lawyers in Spain is not an easy option. You will need very trustworthy legal advice.

[Anonymous]

Would it be an idea if all those who feel they have been badly ‘let down’ by their lawyers (which includes myself re. my original lawyer) to lobby our local MEP’s to liase to form a joint complaint to somewhere higher than the Colegio de Abogados – who are obviously USELESS. (They are probably all ‘mates’ of the lawyers anyway…….).

If a group complaint is made via our MEP’s, listing the lawyers and their ‘misdemeanours’ to a higher authority than the Colegio – like the General Council of Lawyers? – just maybe the Colegio will get a strong boot up the backside to do something instead of arrogantly stating that a complaint ‘doesn’t break any of their rules’ as in Jon’s case.

Somewhere (and I’ll find it) I have the name of the top guy of one of these instititutions, maybe the General Council of Lawyers, who has publicly announced he wants any help given to help clean up all these rogue going-ons.

Does anyone agree it’s worth a try? I’m willing …….
Or any other suggestions?

Barbara

[Anonymous]

@charlie wrote:

Somewhere (and I’ll find it) I have the name of the top guy of one of these instititutions, maybe the General Council of Lawyers, who has publicly announced he wants any help given to help clean up all these rogue going-ons.

Barbara

Good morning!
Have just found him re. above….
– it was the Justice Minister of Spain!

Worth a shot?
Even the threat might prompt some action in some cases where lawyers are not being ‘helpful’ ?
And might just shake a few nuts (off the trees I mean…. 😉 ) in the Colegio?

I’m happy to help co-ordinate a list (via PM’s) if anyone is interested and/or liase with Maria de Castro (on the ‘Change of Lawyer’ thread pg. 2 or 3?) who indicated she may be willing to get involved/help.

Barbara

[Anonymous]

UK litigation lawyers cannot work in Spain, the legal system is completely different, they hire local spanish law firms and they will charge what the spanish law firm charges plus what the british law firm charges you (for doing nothing btw, because all the legal work is done by us spaniards) so you’ll end up paying a fortune, completely useless.

So if you want to litigate in Spain for asstes here hire a local reputable spanish law firm/lawyer.

The Spanish Minister of Justice is going to be sacked in a couple of months from now, just so you know… 😆

[Anonymous]

Maybe Mark could write a suitable article regarding Spanish Lawyers in his Sunday Times column and perhaps if the Sunday Times would co-operate start a campaign or petition to the Spanish Ambassador to put pressure on the Spanish Government to start enforcing their existing regulatory powers.

[Anonymous]

The problem is unless the media are prepared to NAME NAMES, it is a waste of time. You can read the article but at the end of it, you are no wiser as to who the offenders are! Everyone is worried about litigation.

[Anonymous]

@Drakan wrote:

The Spanish Minister of Justice is going to be sacked in a couple of months from now, just so you know… 😆

That speaks VOLUMES!! 🙄

[mariadecastro]

I have already written to the legal department of the General Council of Lawyers so they can direct me to the right person.

[Anonymous]

You guy and gals are giving quite some helpful support.

Drakan seems to be in Spain ?, thanks for the insight of law firms UK/ Spain and insight on forward news.

Great help, please continue the good work, not just for me but others that will surely follow,

Dave D

[Anonymous]

Maria you are a star.

[Anonymous]

@Drakan wrote:

UK litigation lawyers cannot work in Spain, the legal system is completely different, they hire local spanish law firms and they will charge what the spanish law firm charges plus what the british law firm charges you (for doing nothing btw, because all the legal work is done by us spaniards) so you’ll end up paying a fortune, completely useless.

So if you want to litigate in Spain for asstes here hire a local reputable spanish law firm/lawyer.

My point is that, even though it will be more expensive, I would sleep better knowing that I have recourse if he picks the wrong one. I expect due diligence from my solicitor and I would not know how to check out a Spanish lawyer given all the problems we are now seeing.
Sorry Drakan, but at the moment it seems a total lottery.

Jon

[Anonymous]

Jon,

A lottery is a tax for those people who are bad at maths.

There is no such thing. The “offending” lawyers and law firms are but a few and Mark has them them all in a Black List.

The problem is that British doesn’t speak Spanish. So they go to British-run real estates and trust them. Those REAs (which are bad, and obviously are not all, they tend to be the large ones with hype and huge marketing expenses along the costas) ALWAYS recommend the same bad law firms/lawyers.

90% of purchase problems arise from those bad lawfirms. When the truth is that they don’t even account for 1% of the total number of lawyers and lawfirms that work fine throughout the country. So it’s not lottery.

David,

Yes, I’m a lawyer in a spanish law firm located in southern Spain. I specialise in conveyancing.

[Anonymous]

The Spanish Minister of Justice is going to be sacked in a couple of months from now, just so you know.

So has he/she been sacked ???? and an enchufes ( connected ) minister has been replaced ????

[Anonymous]

@Drakan wrote:

The “offending” lawyers and law firms are but a few and Mark has them them all in a Black List.

How do we access Marks lawyers black list?

[Anonymous]

Hi Jude,

You PM him and give him the names of the lawyers/ law firms you are interested in hiring and he can tell you if they are reputable/independant or not. He will not give you a Black List per se of bad law firms because that could cause him legal trouble.

Mr Dorrel,

If you want good litigation lawyers PM Mark.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the directive, Drakan, I will PM Mark as suggested.

I have printed a list of International lawyers from the UK Law Societies Directory of Solicitors and Barristers 2006-2007 that will handle litigation.

This only gave 1 in Marbella and another with several offices , based in Madrid.

Will be interesting to compare !

[Author]

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