Tripling of IBI Tax in Some Councils

[angie]

Is this tripling or doubling of IBI tax only happening in Andalucia as this article indicates, has anyone news of similar happening in other regions and how much is it rising? Also, is this signalling an end to cheaper living in Spain than UK? 🙄

http://www.surinenglish.com/20130812/news/cost … 21123.html

[DBMarcos99]

Also, is this signalling an end to cheaper living in Spain than UK?

No, not by a long chalk!
(hope this puts your mind at rest 🙂 )

http://thisisspain.info/moving-to-spain/cost-of-living/

[angie]

After a very restful night thank you, should a a tripling of IBI continue it’s not inconceivable that this could impact those Spanish businesses listed with customer declines. People often have to make savings elsewhere 🙂

[katy]

Marcos how many times are you going to put this on the forums 🙄 That is only for the naïve who desperately want to believe it Or are you just trying to bury bad news 😆

[katy]

@angie wrote:

After a very restful night thank you, should a a tripling of IBI continue it’s not inconceivable that this could impact those Spanish businesses listed with customer declines. People often have to make savings elsewhere 🙂

An article recently in El Pais (English)

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/07/22/inenglish/1374496783_970511.html

Hundres of others on google about bankrupt town halls. Some haven’t paid their workers for months!

[angie]

I thought I had seen Marcos’ check list comparison before, and before that, and even before that, oh and before, written by Spanish Property Sales so no bias then, come to think of it, I think I said that last time he posted it?

Anyone know if this increase is only affecting Andalucia? 🙄

[katy]

This article gives a long list of increases but doesn’t say how much. scroll to end of page for list.

http://www.finanzas.com/noticias/economia/fiscalidad/20120801/estos-municipios-donde-subira-1480479.html

[DBMarcos99]

Seems strange to be upset by the fact most things (comparing similar types of area) are cheaper in Spain than the UK! 😮

I certainly know (I was there earlier this month, and I’m moving out there to take over a business next month) that most things in Madrid are a lot cheaper than the British capital. Accommodation, food and drink, public transport etc are all a lot less expensive. The only thing I personally expect to pay out more on, will be the monthly internet access charges. And yes, I expect the electric bill to be no more cheaper.

[katy]

like you would know from spending a few days there…try it for a year 😆

Here is a view from a Spaniard in the UK

http://elnorthern.com/2013/05/11/comprar-en-el-super-es-mas-caro-en-espana-que-en-uk/

[DBMarcos99]

@katy wrote:

like you would know from spending a few days there…try it for a year 😆

I’ve lived/worked in Madrid as well as London. But hey, nice to be corrected by a poster who’s never lived in Madrid – Katy!
And I stand by my statement – Most things are quite a bit cheaper than in the British capital. Some things like electricity bills will be similar. The only things that I’ll find more expensive will be internet charges and possibly a pint in the Irish pub! 😆

[angie]

Marcos what does ‘no more cheaper’ mean, do you mean ‘no cheaper’? 🙄

I can’t see any link to a Spanish agent on the example you posted katy 😯

Pleased you’re off to Madrid at long last Marcos, you’ll be able to have your finger on the Spanish pulse and tell us what Rajoy is up to before it breaks in the media 😉

[Anonymous]

@DBMarcos99 wrote:

@katy wrote:

like you would know from spending a few days there…try it for a year 😆

I’ve lived/worked in Madrid as well as London. But hey, nice to be corrected by a poster who’s never lived in Madrid – Katy!
And I stand by my statement – Most things are quite a bit cheaper than in the British capital. Some things like electricity bills will be similar. The only things that I’ll find more expensive will be internet charges and possibly a pint in the Irish pub! 😆

We all know that most expats do not move from London to Madrid. Most expats only touch down in Madrid it the are etting a connecting flight out to the states or wherever.

so really our price comparisons have no real relevance for most.

I am astounded at how cheap things in the UK are compared to Spain. I have business interests in both contries, and the Spanish side is fleeced by the gov. a lot more than the UK side.

Well now that you will be working at last, taking over your madrid business, you may not have the time to be looking for obscure facts and making sweeping assumptions about Spain that have nothing to do with reality.

Good luck in your business BTW, it seems that anothr poster with a completely different name to yours is taking over a business in Madrid too after having worked there, what a coincidence 😉

[angie]

Good post Fern, which forum does that person post on? 🙄

[Anonymous]

@angie wrote:

Good post Fern, which forum does that person post on? 🙄

Now that would be telling.

[angie]

I can’t see a poster called ‘Donald Trump’ appearing on other forums Fern, and I’ve searched British Expats too? 🙄

[Anonymous]

Well I have not been in Canarias since April so I am not sure how the prices have been going.Will see in November but if the ECB stick to their mandate inflation will be contained and that helps Spain get competitive but would be less painful for ordinary people but for Rahoys sometimes vindictive behaviour. However I have always found some things to be cheaper like council tax (IBI) fresh vegetables tomatoes oranges wine bus fares chinese buffets petrol bread bottled gas and some things very similar butter chicken and of better quality cereals ordinary meals out cooking oils electric bills cheaper per unit but higher standing charge on low useage about balances . some things more expensive like buying bottled water wheras I use tap water in UK meat except pork which is much better quality also cars . Some things are variable clothes for example and also whether you go to Carrefour or Hyperdino rather than Spar or minimarkets. Also islands can be a little more expensive than some mainland areas because of transport costs cars I think in particular. But have not noticed much difference in IBI bills. I think this increase that is mentioned might apply to certain premium locations -having bought in a village with a predominance of local people I hope will not be too much affected and places like Galicia might be similar position.

[Anonymous]

@angie wrote:

I can’t see a poster called ‘Donald Trump’ appearing on other forums Fern, and I’ve searched British Expats too? 🙄

If I tell you, it has to be kept secret, OK.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10840862#post10840862

Steviedeluxe, but you must not tell anyone…..do you promise?

[angie]

Gosh Fern, whose name would the business have to be registered in? 😯

[Anonymous]

@angie wrote:

Gosh Fern, whose name would the business have to be registered in? 😯

No idea, but he may not be a Steven or a Marcos, as it could be a small compay it could be called micro something or other, and as the poster is a bit daft putting the same info under two different user names, you could say that he is a bit daft/silly/soft

Maybe he has combined the small and daft/silly/soft componants to make a compay name.
Have you tried looking into microsilly or microdaft or words to that effect 😀

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