Property expenses

[AnonymousParticipant]

Property expense:

Could any one please tell how much would be annuel taxes and variable costs (approximately) for an appartement worth €100’000 in the center of Barcelona or any other similar cities?

1 – Income tax for non-residents (IRNR) = €250 (I have this figure)
2 – Wealth tax : less than €700,000 = €0 (I have this figure)
3 – Municipal property tax (IBI) = ?
4 – Other taxes (rubbish collection) = ?
5 – home insurance?
6 – Electricity, water, heating for one person = ?
7 – Maintenance, service charges = ?
8 – Any other taxes= ?

Thanks

[AnonymousParticipant]

Can’t help with Barcelona, but for my 3 bed apartment in Andalucia

1 – Income tax for non-residents (IRNR) = €250 (I have this figure)
2 – Wealth tax : less than €700,000 = €0 (I have this figure)
3 – Municipal property tax (IBI) = 500
4 – Other taxes (rubbish collection) = 200
5 – home insurance? = 300
6 – Electricity, water, heating for one person = Possibly around 1200???
7 – Maintenance, service charges =
8 – Any other taxes= ?

[AnonymousParticipant]

Thanks for the response. Therefore if we add another 1’200 Euros for maintenance / service charges, the total property expenses will mount approximately to 3’650 Euros per year for a non resident and a 100’000 Euros worth appartment. So for 6 months living in Spain, the cost will be 600 Euros per month plus depreciation / amortization of your investment. Well Spain is not that cheap any more.

Cheers

[Fuengi (Andrew)Participant]

@Josef99 wrote:

Thanks for the response. Therefore if we add another 1’200 Euros for maintenance / service charges, the total property expenses will mount approximately to 3’650 Euros per year for a non resident and a 100’000 Euros worth appartment. So for 6 months living in Spain, the cost will be 600 Euros per month plus depreciation / amortization of your investment. Well Spain is not that cheap any more.

Cheers

jp1 quotes 100€ per month. I would aswell. But I live with my partner and 2 children (young). as you can imagine with young children you bills tend to be high. Yet my bills tend to be about 100€
By IBI is about 550,
Basura, 90€
maintenace/service charge in my case 80 per month. But depending on the community and what it offers it could be 20€ per month or run into the hundreds.

But as you are looking/thinking about buying in a major metropolitan area, I would assume your local taxes could be quite a bit higher.

[Fuengi (Andrew)Participant]

@fuengi wrote:

@Josef99 wrote:

Thanks for the response. Therefore if we add another 1’200 Euros for maintenance / service charges, the total property expenses will mount approximately to 3’650 Euros per year for a non resident and a 100’000 Euros worth appartment. So for 6 months living in Spain, the cost will be 600 Euros per month plus depreciation / amortization of your investment. Well Spain is not that cheap any more.

Cheers

I live with my partner and 2 children (young). as you can imagine with young children you bills tend to be high. Yet my bills tend to be about 100€.
By IBI is about 550,
Basura, 90€
maintenace/service charge in my case 80 per month. But depending on the community and what it offers it could be 20€ per month or run into the hundreds.

But as you are looking/thinking about buying in a major metropolitan area, I would assume your local taxes could be quite a bit higher.

[AnonymousParticipant]

Hi,Josef
I note that you are inquiring about household expenses in Barcelona or similar cities
My Spanish Property is located 90mins from Barcelona in a beatiful,well run city with wonderful amenities(it is a hidden jewel,we wish to keep it that way,wild horses would not drag the name of city from me)
My property is a top floor one-bedroom 40 sq metres flat in a converted house(no lift)in a dream location in the city centre,with 6 flats in total ,2 on each floor
I use it for 4-5 months each year,generally between March and October
My running costs are under €2,000 a year,as follows
1.Electricity €320 per annum
2.Water charge €150 pa
3.IBI €95 pa
4.Refuse €122 pa
5.Orange broadband,Tv,phone €500 pa
6.Community charges €120 pa(not a typing error!)
7.Community insurance €100pa
8.Private contents Insurance €150
9.Bank charges €50
10.IRNR+solrs fee €150
I purchased for €120k in June 2007-I estimated at the time that a similar property in Barcelona would have cost about €230k
I am a single male individual (retired )
Some of these charges are low(no lift to maintain,valor catastral not recently revised)but if you buy carefully it should be possible to get away with annual running costs of €2,500 region in a city near Barcelona-(6 months usage) -running costs in Barcelona itself could be very high
Even in the present difficult situation I would be astounded if €100k would get you anything acceptable in Barcelona
It would,however,secure you a very nice apartment in a city in Catalonia,offering a very good quality of life and easy access to the great city when desired

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