[AnonymousParticipant]

hi all

can someone clear something up for me, to get my NIE number do I need to be on a town pardon or need an address in spain, (have a friends address that they are allowing me to use if I need to), or can I just turn up at the local national police station, was mentioned to me I might need to be on the town pardon, am looking to buy buy the end of the year so trying to get some things in place beforehand

just want to double check that I do not need to be on the town pardon as well, do they still issue ‘non resident’ NIE

thanks

[AnonymousParticipant]

Hi, You don’t need to be in the town padron neither have an address in Spain. If you want more information about how to obtain a NIE:

http://www.spanishlawintheuk.co.uk/category/nie/

Hope it helps

[AnonymousParticipant]

Wencra,

Are you going to get the NIE number yourself standing in line at the police station, or do you want to pay someone to do it for you? I’ve found a gestor who does it all for you – all she needs is a notarised copy of your passport, which is cheap, easy and quick to get when you are in Spain. I’m looking for someone to try out the service. Let me know if you are interested.

[AnonymousParticipant]

hi dalorgar & mark
thanks for your replies, wanted to double check as I thought you didn’t need to be on the pardon, but someone suggested that I did, thought I might have needed an address as I will only be over there a week this time and wasn’t sure if it would be issued in time for me to collect, where as my friends can pick it up for me, I intended to stand in line and go through the process if possible, to get into the way things are done lol, but in saying that it would do not harm to look at that way of doing it, in case things don’t work out can you give me more info mark. do they do a notarised copy of your passport at any local or national police station or in the town hall

[AnonymousParticipant]

Hi,

Mark I think this gestor is wrong, I’ve done a lot of NIEs and he will need more things, in esence:

– Power of attorney granting him to apply and pick it up (translated or in English and Spanish version as I usually do it) which has to be legalised with the Hague Apostille by the F&C Office
– Notarized Copy of the passport also legalized by the F&C Office
-Also, you must bear in mind that given the importance of the documents my suggestion is to send it by Courier, which can be £50

I know it involves some cost but sure you need the NIE for doing something in Spain( purchase, inherit,…) and your Lawyer can plan it to use these documents (passport and PoA) in both issuess, so it is no so much money in it.
You can do it from UK.If anyone is interested I can give more details about the total cost.

Hope it helps
David

[AnonymousParticipant]

David, I checked it with her and she said she didn’t need a Power of Attorney, but now I am double-checking it, just to be sure. She has dealt with many NIE numbers over many years, so she knows what she is doing, and she might be right. You know how Spain is – do you need POA? It depends on the police station 😕

Wencra, I’ll get back to you once I’ve confirmed that you don’t need a POA. You would, however, need to get a notarised copy of your passport, which you can get at any notary.

[AnonymousParticipant]

Hi Mark,

Sorry to take the opposite again, but if you look at the official site of the “Ministerio del Interior”( sorry it is only in Spanish) ;
http://www.interior.gob.es/extranjeria-28/ciudadanos-de-la-union-europea-718/numero-de-identidad-de-extranjero-nie-723?locale=es , it is specified that if requested through a representative, he must prove to have power to it, which in Spain is under a power of Attorney.

Also in this site of the ICEX:
http://www.interes.org/icex/cda/controller/interes/0,5464,5296169_6217520_6272987_0,00.html

If this “Gestor” is doing without it ( which I personally doubt) he is doing it illegaly, the NIE is a personal number, and very important, especially in the matter of taxes (almost like a passport) and it is asigned for your whole life. That is why you have to do it in person or thought PoA. I do not think the police would accept to give a NIe on behalf of somebody without a PoA

[AnonymousParticipant]

Dalorgar, I know a gestor who can get you an NIE number without a POA, no problem, and cheaper than anywhere else. And I’m not talking about top-manta either.Spain is quirky – it’s part of its charm. 🙂

Who follows the rules in Spain? Not the country’s leadership, that’s for sure! Nor every oficina de extranjería. 😉

[katySpectator]

Perhaps this Gestor has an illegal arrangement with their local office, probably their cousin or friend :roll:. Certainly in Marbella you need POA.

[AnonymousParticipant]

I agree with Katy

[AnonymousParticipant]

ok back from our trip and have to say am amazed at how smoothly it all went, walked into the office in antequera at 9 am up to the desk, handed over completed EX-15 form and passport and 1 photocopy of it, she filled in her forms, handed me the form to go to the bank to pay 9.27 euro, wanded up there couple of mins walk, paid form stamped so back to the station, seen straight away and told to come back in 2 days, so from walking in at 9 am I was back in the car driving out of antequera by 9.35, that was weds went back on friday and the A4 sheet was waiting for me. so have to be fair it was a very smooth experience

very happy laugh

[AnonymousParticipant]

Good for you Wencra 🙂

You should start offering an NIE service 😀 I read in the Mail the other day that someone was quoted a price of 1,200 pounds for arranging an NIE number from the UK.

[AnonymousParticipant]

One question for you Wencra. Does it say anywhere on the certificate (at the bottom) that it is only valid for 3 months?

Mark

[AnonymousParticipant]

hi mark ref time scale along the bottom it does say although its been cut in half when printing it ‘Este certficado tiene una validez de tres meses’ which I am presume is a yes to your question about lasting 3 months. I take it that the number will be valid for life but will need to renew the certificate to buy anything, if we then become residents I take it the certificate will become an open ended one looks like another trip on the cards lol

[AnonymousParticipant]

I went on Monday to the police station at Calle Bailen, Valencia, which is the office for those of us from EU countries. I arrived at 8.10 and was first in the queue. A second person arrived at 8.20 and then a steady stream from about half past eight, by opening time at nine there were between a dozen and fifteen people. You are handed a numbered ticket as you go in.

I was seen straight away, filled in two copies of the form, had the photocopy of my passport stamped and retained and that was it. I was told to return on Thursday or Friday to pick up the number. I asked about payment and was told this is done on the return visit. I was out of the station at 9.10.

The form is in Spanish and it is available online (http://www.interior.gob.es/modelos-de-solicitud-37/extranjeria-342). I had found instructions for completing it on the website of the Spanish consulate office for Edinburgh (http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/EDIMBURGO/en/Consulado/Documents/Guide%20to%20fill%20EX-15%20form.jpg).

I would suggest printing off and filling in the form beforehand but don’t sign it until you’re at the police station. (One other thing about the instructions, use your Spanish address and not the UK address as stated, they were writing as if you were visiting the Edinburgh office.)

I returned this morning, Friday, at 8.15 and again was first in the queue. A couple arrived at half past eight and one other person at 8.45. By opening time there were only five people in total.

My NIE was ready, I was given a form to take to any bank to pay (€9,27), when I returned there was no one waiting and I was seen straight away. I handed over the stamped payment form and received my NIE. I was out of the station at 9.25.

My experience has been that it was all quite straightforward. Language was a bit of an issue as I don’t yet have much Spanish but at the end of the day I managed to understand enough although it has to be said I had done some preparatory work including trying to find the general translation of items I thought might come up and, of course, reading posts here!

[katySpectator]

That’s really helpful 🙂

[AnonymousParticipant]

Happily for you you can still turn up and get it sorted in Valencia, though it sounds like it helps to get there early.

In Barcelona, however, EU nationals now have to book a time in advance with the extranjeria office to get an NIE number (see point 91 in this Government document), and I think the earliest date you will get if you book now is mid-November.

In Barcelona, at least, they have just made getting an NIE number much more of a pain. 😡 👿

[AnonymousParticipant]

Officials at the Barcelona extranjeria are now telling people you don’t need a POA to request an NIE on someone else’s behalf, just a letter of authorisation.

Mind you, I wouldn’t want to try without a POA. You can imagine what officials are like in Spain. They like to interpret the rules their own way. 🙄

I’m also told that non-EU nationals applying in Barcelona now have to request an appointment online. Beforehand they could just turn up at the Passeig de Sant Joan extranjeria and queue up.

[AnonymousParticipant]

This is the link to the NIE application form at the Ministry of the Interior website:

http://www.interior.gob.es/file/65/65040/65040.pdf

It doesn’t work for me, but for all I know it might be because I don’t have the correct version of pdf.

Can anyone get to the pdf document using that link?

[fpegmanParticipant]

You do not need a Notarised copy of Passport for an NIE any colour copy will do but you need the correct forms and 2 photos

[AnonymousParticipant]

hi Wencra,

can I ask you why you need a NIE?
I have a NIE even though I am not Spanish or live in spain so hopefully I can help you.

daniele

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