January 28, 2007 at 12:11 pm #52578InezParticipant
This wednesday BBC1 at 7.30pm UK time. This is to highlight the plight of 1500 brits caught up in the illegal build scandal and demolition orders. The info does not state where in Spain this is focussed but reading on various forums the whole coast seems to be affected.
Even if all the licenses are given, they can be revoked as has happened with a few developments in Marbella, Senorio de Aloha being one. With a demolition order issued against it and all licenses revoked, its yet another one off our list to be able to auction or sell!
January 30, 2007 at 6:11 pm #68663
Thank you Inez
This will be very interesting and hopefully help speed up the mess.
Will be interesting to see what if any compensation is paid if demolished
Missed the one on La Reserva but will look forward to this one.
I will bet the forum goes into over drive there after.
January 30, 2007 at 7:38 pm #68664
I believe that the programme will centre on Albox, and other towns in the Almanzora Valley (Almería).
January 31, 2007 at 9:53 am #68678InezParticipant
I hope so, This uncertainty is really killing the market at the moment. La reserva is still a problem but was mainly about delays on completions, it didnt really highlight what is really happening here. I guess the more esxposure the better and the Spanish may FINALLY sit up and take notice.
The locals who are affected have numerous peer groups set up and are demonstrating, but of course this is not shown too much on local or international TV!
January 31, 2007 at 11:30 am #68685
A taste of what to expect tonight:
January 31, 2007 at 4:37 pm #68689
😆 i live in england at the moment have property in almeria parents in huercal overa tonights programme in about albox you all seem to feel sorry for the residence in albox im sorry to say this they new that they were living in illegal builds thats why they bought there very cheap propertys and hoping that they would not get found out albox is a horrible place i feel sorry for the local spanish people there the brits have ruind it im no snob but its like one big council astate run by british thugs . im sorry if ive upset any one but its about time this was sorted once and for all helenb
January 31, 2007 at 4:54 pm #68690
There may have been people who knew the illegal built. you seam to be generalising the situation even before the programe has been aired.
Like any where in the world the opprotunist are there. I am sure that people with thier life savings will not be so foolish. As you say they were cheap. Well they may have been! but that must be the going rate at the time and whywould a developer building legal or not sell it cheaper than what the market can sustain.
I feel we should first watch the programe and than take a view through the prism of our peronal/loved ones experiences.
January 31, 2007 at 4:55 pm #68691
“One of the developers blamed by residents is Procoal, which the BBC has learned is still advertising in the UK”.
This would be such a good place to start, to somehow stop these rogues flooding the UK at exhibitions, advertising in newspapers etc.
Possibly needing to have a type of ‘clearance certificate’ obtained from the local Town Hall, confirming that the properties they want to market have the bona fide paperwork/licences?
Having just re-read that suggestion (involving the local Town Hall) why don’t I feel reassured that would work? 🙄 😆
January 31, 2007 at 5:21 pm #68692
Helenb, they may have been foolish and not the “right” sort of people (your inference) but that doesn’t give developers licence to sell illegal builds.
January 31, 2007 at 5:44 pm #68693
Katy. I second that. Further who knows they may have been better people than myself/you and helenb. Just because their pockets could not reach Marbella prices !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 31, 2007 at 5:52 pm #68694
January 31, 2007 at 8:33 pm #68696
The prioblem with your sugguestion is that
1) They may have been built illegally. but they have not been charged or proved guilty in Spain.
2) They have not committed any offence in UK.
3) What good is the town hall !!! As in the case of Marbella, the town hall did give planning permission so what stops them from issuing a certificate of good business practise.
4) Do you think all those properties just sprung one fine morning. The Town hall/the mayor were in it.
If the Town hall wanted to take action knowing very well that hundreds of new houses have been built illegally. Why the company is still operating
I feel that the exhibition organisers should have a list of such developers and they should be black listed in order for the exhibition organizers to keep arms length with such developers
February 1, 2007 at 11:16 am #68709
I take offence at Helens comments, we bought a property three years ago in Almanzora after being given all the assurances we thought needed that every thing was legal. The works have now been suspended for the last sixteen months, we went with agents who are very well known in the uk and spain thinking we could trust them.
February 1, 2007 at 11:40 am #68710
Maureen, did you use and independent lawyer or one recommended by the developer or agents?
February 1, 2007 at 12:13 pm #68711
If someone goes along to an exhibition and asks if there is a building licence and they answer yes they could be reported to the trading standards unit….couldn’t they?
February 1, 2007 at 12:19 pm #68712
The offender would just turn around and say, as in our case, there was at the time we were selling!!
February 1, 2007 at 5:14 pm #68727
i am so sorry if i have upset any one i did watch the programme last night its just that this problem has been going on for many years now if you go any expat site they tell you to be very carefull regarding albox i do feel sorry for these people losing there life savings i dont have a great deal of money and brought near sorbas and spent looking for 2yrs and going as much ground work as possible again im sorry if i upset any one helenb
February 1, 2007 at 5:17 pm #68729
Trading standards, have you ever tried to contact them ????/
February 1, 2007 at 6:20 pm #68735
Errr no! Is it a problem? my knowledge of the UK is a little out of date 🙂
February 1, 2007 at 10:15 pm #68748
small time villans such as car mechnics etc gets done after some times but the bigger fish carries on.
If you ring the respective council, You will be lucky if the swith board will know of the existence of the department. If they put you through its voice mail and they will not return your call ( Job for the boys if you ask me )
If you are lucky to speak to some one who you have woken one irrespective of time of day. The person concern is either at lunch, maternity/patternity leave, job sharing or on flixi day.
I am talking from experience as I have personally contacted Westminster, Lambeth, Merton Council that I recall.
February 3, 2007 at 3:37 am #68837
Apparently I need to take a leaf out of Blackadder’s books.
Someone touched a nerve? Read the comments.
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