May 21, 2008 at 9:56 pm #53971
may seem like a weird question but everywhere you look people tell you that moving to Spain is brilliant for your health!
you feel less stressed, the warm climate is good for arthritis etc.
so how come, i ve looked at various sites selling busnesses in Spain and 9 times out of 10 the reason given for selling this “thriving business” is ill health!!!!
i think its possible that i missed my “reading between the lines class” at school and what they actually mean is;
they are SICK of sitting there waiting for customers to come into their establishments whilst the various monthly bills pile up?
What do you think?
May 22, 2008 at 9:41 am #82889
Hi Chilly – your posting made me laugh! One of the reasons I came here was to enjoy life – and Ive never worked so blommin hard!
Yes it can be stressful – we are immigrants here dspite what the EU reckons and sometimes it can be hard going. In the UK its so soft that if you lose work you get help, the cradle toe the grave socialism makes people relax, here as an immigrant there is nothing like that so if youre skint, youre skint!
Sorts the men from the boys! However, many of us try to work long and lard to make loads of money, thinking this is the path to true happiness.
The spanish work to live, not live to work! They do their bit and by and large are happy with their lot. They like the simple pleasures, like the ferias or the beach or just walking out with the family.
Families are important to them and most of their times are spent at family gatherings. Things we havent done for many many years in the UK
So I think its the culture difference that causes the stress. Us english work hard then go on the booze at the weekends – doesnt really make us happy I gotta say
Im trying to find that balance of not working too hard and realxing and just enjoying what there is. Having the dog now is forcing me to do so as he has to be walked and Im actually finding that fun (and teaching him naughty tricks!)
So- if people are coming here for a champagne lifestyle then you will need dosh – if youre coming here to enjoy simplicity, then maybe here wont be what you need!
And make sure you allow a good years work and money otherwise yes total stress!
May 22, 2008 at 12:18 pm #82899
since moving to spain i’ve had 2 daughter 3month & 19months, a full time job and a mortgage.
😆 so no
May 22, 2008 at 1:29 pm #82902
You had time to make the daughters!!!!! Stress relief – no?
May 22, 2008 at 2:35 pm #82904
In reply Inez: I reply in block & I am not shouting at her.
” we are immigrants here dspite what the EU reckons and sometimes it can be hard going”£
EU , ONLY ALLOWS YOU MOVE & LIVE/WORK ETC THERE. INEZ YOU COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS PRIOR TO EU.
“In the UK its so soft that if you lose work you get help, the cradle toe the grave socialism makes people relax”,
THIS IS NOT THE UK, THAT I KNOW OFF. MY LATE UNCLE WAS MADE REDUNDENT IN THE EARLY 90′ AT THE TIME HE WAS THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR/HEAD OF AUDIT ON £150K A YEAR. HE HAD NEVER CLAIMED A PENNY FROM THE SYSTEM IN ANY FORM. HE WAS OFFERED £65 P.W. ON THE CONDITION THAT HE COMES AND ATTEND CLASSES TO SEE IF HE COULD DO BASIC MATHS AND SHOWN HOW TO PREPARE HIS CV. NEEDLESS TO SAY HE TOLD THEM WHERE THEY CAN GO. THE SORT OF CUSHION ETC THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS OFFERED TO ASYLUM SEEKERS ETC. ( BEFORE YOU ALL GO UP IN ARMS THIS NOT ANTI/FOR ASYLUM IMMIGRANT ETC)
“here as an immigrant there is nothing like that so if youre skint, youre skint”!
I AM AFRAID THIS MOTIVATES/FOCUSES THE IMMIGRANT. WHEN EVER I SEE THEM TRY TO MAKING A LIVING I ALWAYS GIVE THEM PRIORITY WHERE EVER IN THE WORLD EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT NEED THEIR PRODUCT OR SERVICES AT ALL TIMES.
“Sorts the men from the boys!”
“make loads of money,”
SORRY, IN SPAIN YOU CANNOT LEGTIMATELY MAKES LOAD OF MONEY, THE SYSTEM, GOVT, LAWS, DO NT ALLOW FOR IT.
The spanish work to live, not live to work!
I, AGREE BUT THERE IS A BALANCE.
“They like the simple pleasures, like the ferias or the beach or just walking out with the family”.
I AGREE AND I ALWAYS SAY TO MY SPANISH FRIEND YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR SIESTA & FEISTA
” Families are important to them and most of their times are spent at family gatherings”
I ALSO ADD FRIENDS. THEY THE SPANISH DO NOT GO TO A DIVORCE LAWYERS AFTER XMAS FAMILY GET TOGETHERS LIKE IN UK.
“Things we havent done for many many years in the UK”
AND WE STILL DONT, PERHAPS NORTH OF WATFORD THEY DO.
“So I think its the culture difference that causes the stress. Us english work hard then go on the booze at the weekends – doesnt really make us happy I gotta say “
IT MAKES THE CHANCELLOR & BOOZE COMPANY VERY HAPPY.
“Im trying to find that balance of not working too hard and realxing and just enjoying what there is”
ITS A DIFFICULT BALANCE. IF YOU ACHEIVE IT LET ME KNOW.
“So- if people are coming here for a champagne lifestyle then you will need dosh “-
THIS APPLIES EVERYWHERE ALTHOUGH CAVA IS CHEAPER IN SPAIN.
“And make sure you allow a good years work and money otherwise yes total stress”
EVEN IF YOU CAN DO THIS THE UTILITIES, TOWN HALL, TELEFONICA,ADMINISTRATORS, MANANA WILL STRESS YOU.
Quite frankly m’dear, I don’t give a damn!
May 23, 2008 at 1:46 pm #82982
You can apparently claim unemployment benefit here if you have worked in the EEU for 180 hrs in the last 6 years…you need a form from the Customs and excise, E301 I think, that tells you what NI contributions you have made and then you take this to the unemployment office and hope!!
Amount of money and time paid for depends on tax contributions…but a friend gets 600 euros a month!!
Surely work is work where ever you are, but here its much easier to enjoy the better things in life…good food, good wine etc etc as its so much cheaper than in the UK…a menu for 8 euros would be 30 quid in the UK I´d guess!!!
Have a great weekend everyone,
May 24, 2008 at 8:38 am #83018
i don t live in Spain yet but whenever i come over on holiday i feel more relaxed than other places i ve stayed (especially Florida)
strangely, i feel more relaxed when i don t have a car, in the UK, when my car is off the road i sress about it
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