[Anonymous]

hi everyone

having trawled the costa del sol for 2 years now with many blind alleys i have finally committed to a nice 1 bed overlooking miraflores golf course

gym, sauna, jacuzzi bath etc really nice build ,quiet area lagoon pool etc

150k euros at la rinconada de miraflores golf :

http://larinconadamiraflores.com/ingles/mirafloresingles.html

nice green area bit hilly here but love the countryside feel only 1km from beach in riviera del sol

sale managed thru sol-agency (uniquely run by ex police inspector!) turnkey service bank acount opened etc already

i stayed at los granados de cabopino during my own inspection visits and was ultimately disappointed by the mantra of frontline becos :

1.the sea was boring

2.lack of beach activity

3.the calahonda beachside area has loads of ugly developments

4.security- easy access from beach

5.beach quality variable

6.communites like ghost towns

i surprised myself with frontline golf in the end but its very pretty here and is like home only with sunshine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Boothy

Congratulations on your purchase, well thats two of us this year already, cant be all bad can it!.
Hope you are as happy with your place as we are with ours.

Steve

[Anonymous]

You two must have distorted the sales figures fors the quarter !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

boothy

good luck with your new purchase. Looks good from the blurb. What’s the opinion of those already there, and how does the reality compare to the blurb with regards to quality, position, beach access etc?. Is is mostly occupied or are there many empty units?

I’m interested because we were buying a place in Angel de Miraflores, which must be close I guess? ’till the deal all went pear shaped for us. Your development does look nicer, but hard to tell from sales stuff?

[Anonymous]

angel de miraflores is not far away however I have to say la rinconada is a better development

1.its smaller just 48 units 4 story

2.pool is a lagoon shape

3.built by coproin quality is superb aircon hot and col

4.gardens are mature and beatiful

5.very private- angel would be more open

6.nightime security guard pplus cctv

7.better views as u overlook golf course

8.granite worktops, jacuzzi baths are nice touches as is gym and sauna which are immaculately clean

was very quiet wen i was there 2 weeks ago which i like.I had looked at 20 year old stuff beachsie and it was poor mostly very dated builds and lack of amenities most not actually south facing

the developer is still selling units , comm fees for my 1 bed are about €100 a mth plus riubbish tax etc

theres an end 3 bed 2 bath resale for€175k too big for me but good value for money(furnished)

an unfurnished 2 bed resale is €205k

ie the prices are varibale and illogical but you can bag a bargain for a quick sale

booked euros at 1.12 which helped too

these rent out all year roun if you want that sort of thing(mine is full up all the time) as it suits a couple or golf outing

[Anonymous]

heres a link to the existing owners website for rental-as you can see its very pretty

http://www.holiday-rentals.co.uk/Spain/Costa-del-Sol-Malaga/holiday-golf-holidays-apartment-Mijas-Costa/p63131.htm

[Anonymous]

boothy

……so if i fancied a skinny-dip in the sea on a warm evening, how far would I have to streak??

[Anonymous]

about 1.3km to beach downhill

bit steep coming back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

OMG!! Doesn’t bear thinking about Goodstich!! 😆

[Inez]

For some reason that reminds me of the old Rolf Harris song, Jake the peg, ………… 😯

[Anonymous]

You’re showing your age there Inez 😀

[Inez]

Ah well erm……..it was a replay!!!!! 😀

[Anonymous]

Inez

…….wiv his extwa leg deedle eedle eedle um

Flippin eck, Jake the peg indeed. I ran the London marathon last year!!.

Have to agree with you and Claire though, me streaking wouldn’t be a pretty sight. Once upon a time perhaps?………Na, on second thoughts it would have always looked hideous…….wiv me extwa leg!!

[Anonymous]

anyway moving on……

so, those of you who know the CDS well, where would you look if you wanted a nice (minimum 2 bed) place in a nice area, established community, quite close to a beach with good access to shops bars etc, but far enough away not to be noisy with loads of traffic. I’m in no position to buy obviously at the moment, just interested to hear opinions in case one day I might be?.

[Inez]

Hiya Goodstitch. Wasnt referring to your wooden leg, just the extra one, streaking and all that……never mind!!

San Pedro is a lovely place. They are doing the underpass and it is the main coastal road running through at the moment, but beachside is totally level, not too many people summertime, plenty of beach restaurants and cafes. Its a cove so a little protected and I lived right there for 14 months loving the evening walks with the dog. Within a 5 minute walk is a supermarket chemist cafes and papershop, then within a 10 minute walk is the centre. San Ped is a small town – all the banks are there but in one road and there is everything you need. I like Marbella but not a fan of the town as its quite large. Only downside is the beach is more stones than sand, although they do import loads for summer which gets washed away, and last summer they actually ground down the stones to make sand 😯 but a great place. After 15 years here (in Spain) I havent found anywhere else quite like it. Either the towns are much larger, or its a tiny isolated place.

[Anonymous]

Inez

who mentioned a wooden leg?……., it’s ok, I know you weren’t refering to a wooden leg, rather middle wicket! Jake the peg didn’t have a wooden leg either though, just a third one I think?

Thanks for that info on CDS. San Pedro sounds very nice, shame there’s no sand though, but can’t have everything. What about Costa de la luz?. Went there briefly about 20 years ago. Looked pretty good at the time, but much built on now I guess?

[katy]

We used to live nearby S.pedro, Before the new promenade was built the beach was fab, they seemed to dump all the construction rubbish there and it never improved. Feels more like sitting in building site sand and leaves a grey film on the legs. Main negatives for me would be the Road (don’t think the tunnel will make it quiet!) Distance from airport and the amount of new blocks on the seaside. Nice place to wander around though.

The area around the Don Carlos Hotel (sea-side) fits the criteria, they are usually more expensive. Also La Cala village, again sea side, decent beach and places to eat, car not necessary.

[Anonymous]

katy

thanks for that info’ also. Intersting how opinions on areas vary. Very much down to personal choice I guess, but always good to hear different views on an area.

[katy]

I like the costa de la luz, we often spend a few days there. Some of it has now been overdeveloped but there are some unspoilt areas near Tarifa. Downside is the wind, can be really bad for days on end. Chiclana is nice (there are more illegal houses than marbella!)

[Anonymous]

I recently returned from the Costa Tropical,Salobrena.I was very impressed.Typically Spanish and not unduly overun with Brits.Some fantastic villas on the Monte del Almendres,seemed a bit pricey though.Granada and the Alpujarras just a short drive away.

[Anonymous]

h ian check your pm box, sent you short note. hope its of help.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Alan.I’ll check it out!

[Anonymous]

Following on,there was an interesting article in the Homes section of this weeks Sunday Times,by Mark coincidently.It was an interview with Chris Stewart about his life in the Alpujarras.Should attract more interest in that part of Spain.

[Chris M]

@Ian.2 wrote:

Following on,there was an interesting article in the Homes section of this weeks Sunday Times,by Mark coincidently.It was an interview with Chris Stewart about his life in the Alpujarras.Should attract more interest in that part of Spain.

I just left a meeting where I told people to visit this site, and to look at how long Boothy has been looking, look at the advice he has been taking, look at all the negatives he has also faced, but look at how happy he is with his property purchase, his agent, his support and his future.

There have been any number of positive stories lately, because again I would ask anyone to tell me anywhere better really.

And the price that Boothy paid is what… a price from 2002 or before? Buying in 2009 at a 2002 price, and please don’t anyone tell me that is going to fall by 50% in the next 6 months and Boothy be regretting his decision, I think he and others like him are going to be very happy, in fact i think 12 – 18 months from now Boothy is going to be sitting on something that will have risen by more than 10%…

And I have my hard hat on for the response to that one!

[Anonymous]

Buying in 2009 at a 2002 price.

You have actually hit the nail on the head there Chris. The vast majority of properties that are currently on the market are asking close to 2006/7 prices. If they fall back to the 2002 price they´ll find buyers.

please don’t anyone tell me that is going to fall by 50% in the next 6 months

The Tinsa IMIE figures for property prices are:
2003: +15.2%
2004: +18.2%
2005: +16.0%
2006: +15.0%
2007: +8.1%
2008: -2.5%

So to get back to 2002 prices yes, you would be looking at cluse to a 50% fall. I´m not one of those who is saying that. To my mind 30% is more likely and it will take up to two years for the market to bottom.

[Anonymous]

Hi Chris……Not sure why you’re quoting me in your post,certainly no need for a hard hat on my account .I’m merely commenting on an area of Spain that gets little mention on the forum.I’m delighted Boothy found somewhere suited to his/her needs and pocket.Good luck to them!

[Anonymous]

Further west from Tarifa the wind is much less as it does not funnel through the Gibralter straits. Going closer to Portugal there is less development and much of the coastal area is protected. Yes there has been building but no worse and probably better than other parts of the Spanish Coast.

[Chris M]

@Ian.2 wrote:

Hi Chris……Not sure why you’re quoting me in your post,certainly no need for a hard hat on my account .I’m merely commenting on an area of Spain that gets little mention on the forum.I’m delighted Boothy found somewhere suited to his/her needs and pocket.Good luck to them!

I don’t know how I quoted you either, I meant just to post a reply!

[katy]

If I really wanted to buy a place in Spain I would not wait. Investments are not paying much right now. Waiting two years for prices to drop when you could be using the property for enjoyment. OK prices may drop a little more but they will go up again and you have use of the place. On paper it may not seem so good but figures do not factor in cost benefit. Who knows what the future will bring….when I want something I want it NOW 😆 Besides I always seem to want the one that is location and quality….the ones that are never discounted!

[Anonymous]

@katy wrote:

If I really wanted to buy a place in Spain I would not wait. .when I want something I want it NOW 😆

Sorry, by doing so (I want it now thing) too many people enter financial disaster areas…

[Anonymous]

katy

thanks for the advice.

…by the way how’s the new job at the agents going?

[Anonymous]

………just joking folks!

[katy]

Read carefully, I did have a caveat, 😉 I wrote if people REALLY want to buy. I don’t think many people do right now. I think the British love affair with property abroad will be over for at least a decade.

[Anonymous]

far to subtle Katy!

I think you might be right, but the ball is in Spains court to some degree. If anyone in the Spanish authority had the balls to come out and say ‘yes we have got many things wrong in the building/property industry, but we are starting today to put things right’ and actually keep their word by taking action, then perhaps things might look more encouraging when the climate is right for those thinking of buying in the next few years?…….or am I in cuckoo land thinking Spain might do something to put wrongs right?

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