December 4, 2005 at 9:39 pm #51412
hi does anyone know if a building license has been granted ,why can it then be taken away and suspended ❓
December 4, 2005 at 9:44 pm #60130
Possibly because the person (town hall) granting the licence did not in fact have the authority to do so. The Junta now have ultimate power.
Or was there one granted at all?
Did it have an expiry date?
What do you expect, this is Spain!
December 5, 2005 at 10:09 am #60139
In the Summer of 2003 there were elections in Costa del Sol, the old lot out (who were accepting backhanders to issue building licences) and a new lot in – who swore to suspend a lot of those naughtily-obtained building licences.
Maybe your particular problem is one of those caught up in this mess?
December 6, 2005 at 7:24 pm #60165
can someone tell me who the junta are , are they based in the town hall, do they give out building licences? is it safer to have a licences aproved by town hall or junta?? thanks…
December 7, 2005 at 6:32 pm #60181
The Junta is the Autonomous government of Andalusia, based in Seville. The junta doesn’t issue building licences, but it does control the overall planning regulation for the region, to which all municipal plans must conform. Problem is that some municipalities started granting licences that didn’t and don’t conform to the master plan (plan general) for the region, hence they are illegal.
To be on the safe side in places like Marbella where this practise has been widespread, get your lawyer to confirm that the building licence in question conforms to the Regional plan (Plan General) of ’86. The town hall can provide this confirmation in writing.
December 8, 2005 at 1:19 pm #60195
thankyou for help
December 8, 2005 at 5:29 pm #60202
“Most and i mean most of the developments are sold off plan before planning permission is granted. Most of the owners on other developments waiting for completion thanking god they didnt buy at ACC probably havent got licences either and its not illegal, its the way things have always been done in Spain. The most important thing is the bank guarantee that is a legal requirement ( you still have to ask for it sometimes) as this protects the investor regardless of whether there is planning permission or not”
“ACC is in the same position as many of the other proposed developments that are awaiting start in the Almeria area but for whatever reason has received most of the publicity. In Spain things take time. There are a significant number of plans submitted to the authorities that have not been accepted yet and may not be for a considerable time yet. Potential owners expecting to hear good news any day would be better off relaxing as it could take months to sort out. As long as they task their solicitor in ensuring the bank guarantee is still in place, you’d be better sitting tight and not panicking.”
I copied these comments from another forum which covers the Almeria area.
It says everything I believe to be untrue, and yet we hear it repeated over and over again in the area we are buying (Murcia). “This is how it is done in Spain. Why are you trying to change Spain and make it English. It will all work our in the end, it just takes longer here. That’s why we come to Spain – to get away from all the rush.”
There seem to be so many of these developments started without the correct permissions that maybe it really is the norm. Today I heard of another one in Murcia (Trampolin Hills) that has been stopped pending investigation of the officials who approved the development.
Since we have been talking about our problems buying off-plan in Spain we have discovered at least half a dozen friends who have had bad experiences/lost money etc in Spain. They don’t talk about it until you do, because they feel stupid to have been caught out.
I feel stupid too, but it’s only by sharing our experiences we can hopefully prevent others making the same mistakes.
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