Re: Re: Hacienda Riquelme golf course and surroundings in declin

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HRGR assn valid points, pehaps the answers have gone to the commitee and you havant been included, due to your past behavior?, or perhaps there has been no answer yet, this is spain after all, unless you have not noticed.

any way if i where you id be more concearned as to what gets sprayed on the orange groves and lemon groves right next to your block, thats goint to be far more air born than any garden chemicals.
and dont say it wasent on the plans before you made your purchase.
its good to be concerned, its bad to be paranoid, get some facts then tell us if we need to be concerned.
we will thank you for it.

here you go i just googled pesticides in spainish orange groves.
here just one link, are our neighbouring farms organic? perhaps you should ask your self this question first.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/3323355/Savvy-shopper-oranges.html

Citrus fruits’ tough skins can hide a wealth of pesticide crimes, but it is possible to buy with a clear conscience, says Rose Prince
If a banana’s secret weapon is its ability to ripen off the tree, the orange is the fruit with the winning attire. Once waxed, the tough, water and germproof protection of its skin is its secret weapon. Without it we would consume few oranges and without citrus fruit in our diet, we’d be a sorry lot.
The closest orange groves regularly supplying the UK are in Spain, but the Spanish are by no means the world’s biggest growers. Look instead to Brazil and Florida, places where fields of citrus trees never seem to end.
But while oranges, with their high vitamin C content, make a vital contribution, their cultivation gives the planet quite a bit of stress. Is it possible that we are consuming more citrus fruit than we need?
Where do oranges come from?
Originally from the Far East, but they are now grown in Brazil, the United States, the Middle East, Asia (China predominantly), Indonesia, southern Europe and Central America. Oranges from the US and Brazil are grown mainly for the juice industry, while Spain, the fourth-largest grower, grows mainly for the fresh-fruit markets. Note that while fresh fruit is highly nutritious, juice concentrates produced for the orange drink markets have little nutritional value.
Where should we buy oranges from?
In theory, it is best to buy from the country nearest to you. This applies to Christmas satsumas and clementines, too, because the distance travelled is the shortest and therefore the least greedy on food miles. Britain imports a good proportion of citrus fruit from Spain, 90 per cent of which travels here via road freight. Buying Spanish oranges is also the better, although not ideal, choice in terms of ethical farming practice.
After that it is better to choose oranges from other southern European or Middle Eastern countries. Italy, Morocco, Israel and Egypt also produce oranges for the UK. Italy is the main producer of blood oranges, the delicious red-pigmented oranges that have a short season in February and March.
How are oranges grown?
Until 1980, 80 per cent of Spanish orchards were under three hectares in size. Methods were traditional and relied on natural fertiliser and ”flood” irrigation techniques. Most weeding, harvesting and pruning was done by hand. But as farms have consolidated and grown in size, heavy pesticide use has given Spanish fruit farms a bad reputation. Excessive water use is also an issue, with 6,000-9,000 cubic metres needed for every hectare.
Are there pesticide residues on my orange?
A shocking report in 1999 revealed that when 66 samples of oranges from all over the world were taken (by UK authorities), a cocktail of chemicals was found on each. While none exceeded the maximum residue levels set by the Government, there were some nasties on the oranges, including the romantically named 2,4-D, a herbicide that is toxic to humans and which easily leaches into soil and water.
Overspraying was blamed and the British retailers, especially the big four supermarkets, have since asked supplying farmers to join a scheme to reduce the use of agricultural chemicals.
What about sprays on other citrus fruit?
The latest surveys showed residues on the majority of samples of limes, grapefruit and lemons. When satsumas were tested all were found to have residues. If you are not eating the peel, there is less to worry about.
How can I avoid eating sprayed oranges?
Buy organic oranges. Very few chemicals are available to organic farmers, while conventional farmers have hundreds to choose from. Organic growers can apply a mixture of fish and kelp products to the trees (these provide adequate quantities of nitrogen, phosphorous, potassium and micronutrients). At present they are also allowed to spray the lower part of trees with copper sulphate sprays. Washing all citrus fruit in warm water helps a little.
Why are citrus fruits waxed?
Citrus fruit has a fairly long shelf life compared to other fruits, but it is usually sprayed with a ”wax” coating to extend this. You can do much to remove it by scrubbing the orange with a soft brush in warm water. Organic producers are permitted to use wax, but bitter Seville oranges and some lemons are sold unwaxed because their peel is used in cooking.
Are there pesticides in my marmalade?
Again, this has been a huge problem, but Spanish farmers have taken steps to reduce the use of chemical spray. Organic marmalade is made from oranges grown with little or no spray and is now becoming much easier to buy.