Re: Re: China and Russia


Both Rand and Ron thinks that its up to the individual to behave like an idiot and discriminate people because it will end up in their own destruction “company going bankrupt because they will loose money etc by people boyocotting it”. It’s a very radical and different view but to call them racist is just wrong. They are for extreme individual freedom as long as you don’t hurt anyone else physical or their property.

Adhering to a dogma and ignoring very real problems, such as racism, is the domain of ivory-tower inhabitants.

The idea that “business will lose money” is not true. For example, here in California, the total percent of adults who were tobacco smokers never ever was above 40%, and yet the State had to force restaurants to first offer non-smoking sections, and then finally banned smoking completly. Until the State intervened, ‘the marketplace’ failed to respond to the majority, those non-smokers who did not want to smell like an ashtray after dining out or going to a bar.

Again, I admire Paul’s sincerity and his foreign policy proposals. But to deny his racist past is whitewashing. We’re never going to agree about that.

Do you support the elimination of the Department of Energy? How about the Department of Education? Do you believe that State’s have the right to control everything, including prohibiting the marriage of heterosexual couples that are different races or religions?

I don’t. But Ron Paul does.

Finally, we have an expression here: “Other than that Mrs. Lincooln, how was the play?” To overlook – and not even address – blatantly racist, anti-Semitic or other vile content in order to make your point did, in my mind, make me wonder if you were sympathetic with the ideas expressed in that content. That is why I called you a racist nutcase and cut off the conversation. Thanks for clearing that up in your last post.

In my mind, if someone puts poison in the pond, the entire pond is toxic. You are more nuanced than I.