THE GOOD NEWS THREAD

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    • #52686
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I open a thread for anyone that wishes to post good news regarding property experience or experience in general regardng Spanish property.

      I will start
      Looks like with the help of avery good lawyer that we are reaching anout of court settlement on a property in which I have a 50% financial interest.

    • #69740
      Inez
      Participant

      I bought my house in October and had a fabulous lawyer helping me. Personally and luckily Ive had no problems but I do empathise with others led astray.

      Well done to you Glassman.

    • #69748
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I’ve just bought for the second time in Spain, did DIY conveyancing without using the services of any lawyer and because I bought it privately direct from the vendor I didn’t have to pay the 38% commission the estate agent was trying to pocket!

    • #69766
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Come on Guys and Gals it aint that bad and people look at these forums for news on both sides on the fence.
      DONT BE PUT OFF BY POSTING POSITIVES as well of course and far more important as the negative involving anyone or any company involved in shark practices.
      WHY DONT WE ASK ONE OF THEM TO STAND UP AND ANSWER THE CRITICS,(a bit like Watchdog)
      Certainly be an inersting forum me thinks. ?

    • #69774
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Still keeping it going

      As the market is slow at the moment on in Spain you can now get some great deals on furniture and a fraction of what they were 12 months ago
      For instance
      36 ” L.C.D H,D ready flat screen Philips T.V (latest model) , 695 euros.

    • #69775
      Aunty Val
      Participant

      Ok Glassman, here goes…

      Bought 3 years ago and love it.

      Had very few problems with lawyers (because we chose an independent lawyer and stuck with her), had the usual lies from each estate agent (most of it is not malicious, it tends to be ignorance and plain stupidity) and the builders (Spanish) that came in to do a mixture of jobs for us were (in the main) very good.

      As I have said before, research and common sense can go a long way to avoiding many of the pitfalls (obviously not the blatant lies and mis-selling of awful agents and dodgy developers) and a forum like this is a great place for people to learn from others mistakes/problems.

      Would I go back to the UK? Not willingly. The weather is just as good as it said on the tin, the culture is every bit as welcoming and friendly as expected and it really is much better than being in the UK. Every time I go back I just thank my lucky stars that I don’t live there anymore.

      Come on, it feels quite nice once you’re in…

    • #69777
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi

      With us, as we had our family late, it was either paying more into a pension (get a piece of paper each year saying you know it was worth x last year well now it x – y this) or its get a place in the sun so we can take our babies somewhere warm every year.

      No brainer really.

      Got an independent EA, who we still see most times we go, as a friend after five years. He suggested three lawyers and I interviewed each one to find the best one.

      Best thing we ever did (next to getting married and having kids of course.)

      We would recommend it to anyone.

      Regards

      Paul

    • #69778
      Anonymous
      Participant

      O.K
      This thread is also open to anyone to anyone that has managed to beat the sharks.
      Just a few stories that show that while some have screwed so many of us in then end got some revenge.
      Try if possible to show that while some may be down they are never beaten
      Also anyone that wants to NAMES and SHAME particular solicitor/developer or estate agent
      This could then become a forum that we have some influence on who the brits should avoid by having a list of the real sharks.IE .THE NAME and SHAME LIST.
      Just perhaps in this way we can just have a little influence now and in the future

    • #69780
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I like the idea of a recommendation thread where people can post good experiences they have had of a particular Lawyer or Estate Agent as long as they are genuine referrals. I think we know what we mean.

      There are of course the referrals on the website but getting the word out about others cannot hurt, can it?

    • #69794
      Anonymous
      Participant

      This is not the place for naming and shaming. Please read the forum rules.

      Also, I would ask you not to recommend companies here. I do not have time to check for genuine recommendations. Once you start allowing recommendations, it always ends up in companies / people with something to sell recommending themselves. Sad, but true.

      Mark

    • #69796
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @mark wrote:

      This is not the place for naming and shaming. Please read the forum rules.

      Also, I would ask you not to recommend companies here. I do not have time to check for genuine recommendations. Once you start allowing recommendations, it always ends up in companies / people with something to sell recommending themselves. Sad, but true.

      Mark

      Fair enough Mark. I appreciate that some people would manipulate the situation.

    • #69803
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Mark
      Fully understand so will keep it to THE GOOD NEWS THREAD

    • #69807
      Inez
      Participant

      Glassman – where did you get that tv from?? Im looking for a 40 inch (of course and no funny comments please!)

    • #69808
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Inez, I am pleased you cleared this one. I was getting a bit concerned about your greed.

    • #69810
      Inez
      Participant

      I refuse to answer on the grounds I may incriminate myself!

      Hiya Shakeel – I wondered where you got to!

    • #69813
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi Inez
      Forgive my spelling but THE EROSKI shopping mall Mijas Costa/Fuengerola
      There is an very good white goods shop in there(gound floor) and they do these T,Vs 36″ from 499 euros H.D ready flat screens and cant touch this price in the U.K
      I evn drove right out to a large retail complex the other side of Malaga airport as many said it was cheap but no one could beat this guys

    • #69818
      Inez
      Participant

      Great – Im sure thats the Myramar centre – new finished a couple of years ago and wil a cinema in it. Next to Dunnes. Im on my way! πŸ˜›

    • #69819
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Inez
      Thats the one.

    • #69853
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Our nearest Eroski in Cartagena is wonderful. They do some great bargains and free delivery if you spend more than 120.20 euros (no idea why that amount).

      They speak very little English but are so keen to communicate that we have never had any problem with our limited Spanish. Everyone is friendly and helpful.

      Carrefour on the other hand ….. no, sorry,this is the good news thread! I will save that for another day!

    • #69856
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Tilly
      Thank you for showing retraint.
      We really do need postings of good news and no one should at least try to spoil our efforts.
      P.S Know what you mean though.

    • #70150
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Another great weekend of fiesta’s in Spain, this one specific to the Valencia region.

      I have uploaded some pics if anyone wants a look http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jims_pc/album?.dir=/f083re2&.src=ph

      And for history of the Fallas
      http://www.valenciatrader.com/valencia/valencialasfallas2006/historyfallas

      Jim

    • #70152
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Amazing creations Jim! Friends of ours went to the one in Denia, their first experience of the Fallas since moving to Spain. Spain certainly knows how to put on wonderful spectaculars.

    • #70168
      Anonymous
      Participant

      This may or may not be an answer to some problems

      Just speaking to friends that are having similar problems down near Duqesa and mirror some of us on this forum
      The surrounding areas of developments and the finish of landscaping look nothing like the plans and many are left barren and unfinished.
      They had a management meeting to consider taking the developer to court with no guarantee of success.
      One came up with ?
      There were 200 of them in this development ,why don’t we agree to put in X amount to get the landscapes completed as this will eventually add Y to the values and we will have a far better area to live and have holidays in.
      Lets say they each put Β£ 5 k in ?
      They hated to see those developers get away with it but also not to happy about giving it to the solicitors and trusting the Spanish legal system again.
      Suppose the good news here is we do have options to share costs in some cases and we are not alone.

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70171
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Glassman

      the only good news about that is for the developer!!!!!! (unless it has gone bust in a genuine way through no fault of its own???)

      What a pathetic state of affairs, if the system is so poor that it not only allows the sharks to lie and prosper, but then doesn’t have the balls to do anything about it when challenged by decent people. I would say to people, don’t waste your money, get a good lawyer and FIGHT!! and that putting the site right themselves should NOT be an option, or at least only as a very last resort if the developer has gone bust, and they cannot sue developer/agent/lawyer. A contract is just that, if the dodgy developer cant honour it, then they should get their money back, what ever and how ever long it takes. Anything else plays straight in to the hands of low life developers.

    • #70177
      katy
      Blocked

      I would say put some amount into improving the place (getting agreement coud be a problem!) and leave something in the kitty to hire a lawyer to sue the developer.

    • #70179
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi Katy

      Katy said quote

      ” I would say put some amount into improving the place ”

      ………but why should they though?, i realise in Spain things are far from black and white, and justice is hard to come by, but those people have paid for their property to be a certain specification, and i think that’s the minimum they should accept. After all, we wouldn’t even buy a car and accept the dealer saying ” oh by the way, i haven’t put carpet in, you will need to add it when you can afford it”, so why should they?

      If they really have no alternative and for whatever reason suing will not work then what choice do they have i guess?, it just stinks!. I would love to hear that they had got justice, now that would worth shouting about on a good news thread!

    • #70181
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi Goodstitch/Katy
      Thats a problem getting people to agree and they are still taking the developer to court (which was part of the agreement out of the fund)
      Remember, this is the good news thread ?
      I do fully understand what you are saying bud and am up for any fight,
      These people have taken a different stance as the system is sooo corrupt that they felt they could spend thousands and years in legal fees and just build further dept the developer would go goes bust while their equity/ development was looking sadder by the week.
      One of the owners had their place on the market for many months but since, they have had one offer.
      The cess pit that these developers/estate agents and in particular the solicitors have created would be something I would love to bury their heads in, however after 5 years of hell these lot are protected in every angle I have tried.
      Yes its sooo sad but remember this is the good news thread and in this instance this appears good news for them as they have taken the steps they have.
      ( like you the thought of.them getting away with anything makes me sick to the gut)
      Catch any of these ba-tards who have screwed us and anyone can go top of the class of this thread as that!
      WILL BE GOOD NEWS?
      Regards
      Jim

    • #70268
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Just visited a local Spanish Property show and expecting to see the venue empty with a couple of sales agents slumped down downing pots of coffee which has been the case for the past couple of years.
      Amazed to see that the place was very busy indeed with 6 sales agents all occupied with people waiting.
      Listened in on the conversations for over an hour as you do if like me your nosey and the message was load and clear, that many want away from the U.K and in spite of everything including other emerging property markets it was either Spain first or France second that was the choice.

      Regards

      Jim

    • #70270
      Anonymous
      Participant

      This thread has only been opened a few short weeks and has had the highest hit rate of any thread, though not that many postings ?
      Please observe the sad hit rate of the rest and apart from one they have been dire.
      Think that Joe Public are looking for forum that may wish to consider posting both the bad and perhaps more important the GOOD NEWS which accounts for the vast majority of owners of Spanish Property.

    • #70271
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @glassman wrote:

      in spite of everything including other emerging property markets it was either Spain first or France second that was the choice.

      This will always be the case. The infrastructure is in place. It is driveable.

      This thread has only been opened a few short weeks and has had the highest hit rate of any thread, though not that many postings ?

      Not true!!!!! Besides which, the content of this thread is………… mmmmmm?…… uninteresting waffle for the most part. Hence not many postings because to be frank, there’s not much good news to be had just now. IMHO.

    • #70274
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Glassman,

      One agent on another site who has recently exhibited in London made this comment.

      “It really is obvious that Spain is not the flavour of the year.”

    • #70275
      Anonymous
      Participant

      dorothy

      an agent saying what everyone knows, (apart from a fewpeople still kidding themselves otherwise) and making a true comment, that must be good news!

    • #70282
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Dorothy. This is not like you.? RE WRITTEN AS THE PREVIOUS SOUNDED LIKE I MINDED YOU POSTING YOUR OPINION WHICH IS NOT INTENDED

      HOWEVER.
      Goodstitch 44
      How sad are people at times when even the most basic of positive news is met with so much negatives and followed by a sarcy comment (WHY )
      Just happened to observe what I saw today at a Spainish Property Exhibition.
      Why an earth someone would say I wanted to try to kid myself is beyond me.
      Everyone knows that recent exhibtions over the past couple of years have been dreadful
      This one happened to be good with by all accounts 24 viewing trips booked
      NOW THEM IS THE FACTS.
      THATS THE GOOD NEWS FOR TODAY AND I CAN THINK OF ONLY ONE BUNCH THAT GOES OUT OF THE WAY TO POO POO THAT

      Claire
      Your posting does not even deserve a reply as I am sorry to say and for your info this thread has had more hits today than all the others have combined with lots to spare.
      Cant we just have one thread that gives some good news ?

      THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS THREAD<FOR THE MANY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOOD NEWS

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70283
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Glassman are you sure your not an agent, as you seem privy to lots of agent type information and you really do sound like a disgruntled one at times πŸ˜‰

      I read every thread, everyday and if others are anything like me, they read YOUR threads most as a fascination as to how much longer Mark is going to let them continue, as there seems to be a common theme of threads you post in and arguements πŸ˜•

    • #70284
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @glassman wrote:

      Cant we just have one thread that gives some good news ?

      THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS THREAD<FOR THE MANY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOOD NEWS

      Maybe the thread has had sooooo many hits because:
      a) People genuinely are hoping that there just might be some “good news”…Then they go away disappointed. πŸ™
      b) You keep “hitting” the thread yourself to keep it at the top of the page! πŸ˜‰
      c)People have a fascination to see what you write next! πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

      I guess you went back to the exhibition to see how many viewings the agents got, as how else would you know they have 24 inspection trips lined up? Now that’s quite sad really.

    • #70285
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Answer 1 Just like Laury you mean ?.

      Why is it sad that I went back to the exhibition to see how well they had done after seeing the responce earlier ?
      I have property in Spain and there has been some dreadful press regarding that market.
      How sad in fact that this forum is motivated to only receive bad news?

      NOW THATS SAD

      Your not following me around again are you ? πŸ˜€

    • #70286
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Flynn
      Nope not an agent.
      Used to be one and one with lots of experience and contacts in the market place πŸ˜‰
      If Mark wants to ban me for posting any positive news then thats for him to choose and you to read πŸ˜†

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70288
      katy
      Blocked

      So, the good news is that 24 people have booked inspection trips…and who is going to profit by this ❓ The developers mainly, do you really think that this is going to make a difference to the state of the market here.
      The only reason this thread is “alive” is because of your waffling and your obsession with Claire and Charlie, no, not much good news. Glassman, I think this forum has seen a downturn in posts since you have started boring everyone to tears, I personally don’t bother to read it as before.

    • #70289
      Melosine
      Participant

      Just to add my two pennyworth. In my area of Murcia, EA’s are actually getting buyers. A mini boom here it seems. Has been for the last 3 years. However they are not people looking to buy on a complexes because here we don’t have such things. Resale and new individual builds.
      Having recently attended a local council meeting and heard what they want to do,when elections are over of course, think this area is going to compete with Marbella without the corruption.
      So that’s good news isn’t it.

    • #70290
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @Melosine wrote:

      Having recently attended a local council meeting and heard what they want to do,when elections are over of course, think this area is going to compete with Marbella without the corruption.
      So that’s good news isn’t it.

      Isn’t that called “pre election hype”?

    • #70291
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @glassman wrote:

      Why is it sad that I went back to the exhibition to see how well they had done after seeing the responce earlier ?
      πŸ˜€

      24 inspection trips = 24 more people being sold off plan developments to line the pockets of “EA/lawyer/developer” triangle.

      That’s not just sad Jim…that is showing yourself as being desperate. You have three seemingly “unsaleable” properties, No LFO. (Green Hills, La Reserva and a share at Los Jardines) You have by your own admission, mortgaged yourself to the hilt and no one is buying ..just a few here & there looking for “distressed ” sales. (bargains).
      I do get the gist of your why you are wanting to be positive and I HONESTLY do feel for you and others in your situation. You are burying your head in the sand though. Berating anyone who says otherwise is not going to alter the facts or the situation. You said you are happy to sit it out for however long it takes to correct the market situation on the CDS. I think you’ll need to do just that.

    • #70292
      Melosine
      Participant

      Because I was brief in my mailing ,yes Claire, it could easily be assumed as thus and I daresay somethings will be put on hold.
      However over the last 3 years this area has and is been transformed and unlike other areas the infrasture is the priority before the builds which when they go in are very well spaced. Now that is good news.
      Maybe one council has learned from the mistakes of the many

    • #70293
      Anonymous
      Participant

      It is good news Melosine. I think that other areas of Spain will benefit by learning from the corruption in Marbella. They will have seen what happens in the end, when people get too greedy.

    • #70294
      katy
      Blocked

      I find it difficult to reconcile what you are saying about Murcia with the articles i have read over the last few months…are you an agent too? When I have time will post some links as its just the same as any other province in spain.

    • #70295
      Melosine
      Participant

      Certainly NOT an agent. Just happen to be interested in what is going on in my enviroment. What I wrote about was the transformation and building I have seen over the last 3 years.
      Property here is built to order only.
      When Murcia is spoken about it is never about my area but the Mar Menor and beyond and and that is 70 miles away.
      Live where mainly the Spanish do and it’s a different scenerario.

    • #70296
      katy
      Blocked

      Well, Los AlcΓ‘zares is still murcia, so are the Roca connections, One properties etc. Water problems with all the planned golf courses. Mayor of Águilas etc and this is off the top of my head. All are under the same cloud as most other provinces (ie. bribery and corruption, no FLO’s) So your part of Murcia is fine. I live in a perfectly legal house in marbella surrounded by greenbelt so should I post on here that its all hunky dory in marbella ❓

    • #70297
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Goodness, all this bad news, and Dorothy – shame on you, naughty, naughty, – how dare you quote someone whose opinion doesn’t match this thread. 😯

      Maybe we should start a “The Bad News Thread” – I can fill 50 pages for a start…….all you realists out there welcome (as well as the odd psycho-manic depressive).
      Free “The Twelve Steps Programme” leaflet for anyone who requires help and recovery.

      No ostriches with their heads deeply buried will be permitted despite their ability to give advice on where to buy cut-price t.v.’s.
      It will be for BAD NEWS ONLY.
      LOVELY……..

    • #70298
      Melosine
      Participant

      I agree Katy where massive overbuilding …urbanised jungles,be they complexes or streets,have been ” illegally”permitted then many councils have been taken to task…even in Murcia ..and quite rightly so.
      However I am speaking as I find and my council have not permitted this.
      No-one here has a problem with legality of build.

      However there is one thing I just don’t comprehend and would love someone to explain it to me.
      Why do Brits ,living here without problems, have not one good word to say about Spain.
      I totally agree that where corruption abounds folk should be warned and helped but Spain is a big country but not everywhere is tarred with the same brush

    • #70299
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Melosine – I think, as has been said before on this forum, that most of all the thousands upon thousands of Brits who are happily living in Spain probably do not spend time on forums such as this.
      They are happily enjoying the Viva Espana. 8)

      Or do you mean Brits generally, outside of the forum, don’t have ‘one good word to say’ about Spain?

    • #70300
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Here is one happy soul πŸ˜€ I have been living in Spain for five years now and really love it. I think the Spanish is absolutely great and would not change it for the world. Yes, I have been lied to and cheated, not by any Spaniard but with British owned bully boy estate agents. How they are allowed to continue is beyond belief. Fortunately the word is spreading and people are getting more alert to their unethical behaviour. I have dealt with small local estate agents a few times and they have been absolutely fantastic and have done more than they had to in giving a helping hand. I think properties in good locations will always be in demand.Andalucia is a beautiful place and I for one am very happy to live here.

    • #70303
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Katy/Claire/Charlie

      The fact is that this was a successful exhibition and that I thought was some good news
      Hopefully these people will now go out with a little bit more awareness than we had when we first went out and hopefully some gained from these forums.
      This thread is still open for good news (waffle)and those that dont like it simply dont have to read it.as it was not intended for them as the FORUM SINDROME is to far inbedded.
      Katy.please read all of myGlassman postings and ask you refrain from trying to stir any trouble as its clear to see that there is no intention whatsoever.
      Claire and Charlie ,no comment.
      Those that dont wish to post,dont and the thread will die.
      Thanks to the two that have posted,thats very brave. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70304
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi Jim,

      If I were you yesterday and I had gone to the exhibition, I would have thought it was my moral duty to have told these people of my experience of buying in Spain and to tell them the do’s & don’ts of buying a property in Spain. I’m sure they would have been grateful for your inside knowledge. I doubt the agents would have been so pleased though. πŸ˜‰

    • #70305
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi Claire
      From listening to them they appeared well clued up and the sales staff had to answer lots of difficult questions.
      As they say times move on and some get a little older and wiser ?

      Regards
      Jim

      πŸ˜†

    • #70307
      Anonymous
      Participant

      When people decide on Spain as their country of choice to purchase a property it is because they do have a love of the country (unless they are simply investors).

      Despite my unfortunate experience in buying a property, my love for the country and it’s people hasn’t waned. And even though my rogue lawyer and the developer were Spanish, I am long enough in the tooth and have travelled enough to know there are good and bad in every country.

      I think most of us have enjoyed the stunning countryside of various areas of Spain, the incredible architecture in places such as Seville, the small tracitional villages and those unique little tapas bars combined with the general relaxed way of life and good weather. That is why we wanted to buy there in the first place.

      However, it’s an unfortunate fact that most people do resort to forums such as this when they have problems to resolve, and thank goodness there are those of us out there who can offer advice either because they have the experience of going through similar problems themselves or there are those happily living there who have a mountain of local knowledge.

      Through this forum I received invaluable legal advice from the likes of Drakan, met my wonderful new lawyer through a link of Dorothy’s (keep up the good work with your links Dorothy, despite any put downs you may receive) and found the comfort and reassurance of meeting others from my same development who I am in regular contact with.

      This forum is far from dying (over 200 individual posts in one week proves that) and long may it last – which I am sure it will.

    • #70308
      katy
      Blocked

      Anyone who is “clued up” doesn’t go on an inspection trip, its the Brit agents who are the worst for selling on dodgy developments.

      As for good news, I have posted a few times positively and stated that have bought and sold a few times without problem, perhaps you have missed these with your vendettas Glassman. Have owned homes in spain since the 80’s but I follow these forums because I am amazed what is happening thes last few years, its certainly not the spain I knew and I think it is going to take some time to recover.

      If you only want to read the good news I suggest you set up a thread for agents as they are usually full of good news in their area (NOT)

    • #70309
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Jim, knowing what we know now we would not:
      a) Go to an exhibition.
      b) Go on an inspection trip! 😯
      Therefore, I doubt they were knowledgeable.

      We thought we were “clued up”. Our mistake was trusting the people we dealt with. Why would a lawyer tell lies ❓ I would expect it from an EA to “colour the picture” NOT a lawyer. I think most Brits would be the same.

      Mind you, I know of one couple who went on two inspection trips just to get a cheap 4 day break. They were the clients from hell!! They eventually bought a Marriott time share apartment in Marbella that they cannot sell!! πŸ™‚

    • #70310
      Melosine
      Participant

      Melosine wrote
      Why do Brits ,living here without problems, have not one good word to say about Spain.
      I was appertaining to these forums only where anyone who dares to think or write a positive posting or as is happening now even asks a simple question is likely to be treated to either sarcastic replies and/or made to feel an idiot.
      Parts of mailing constantly being highlighted to prove a point. The point of which I have yet to discover.
      So Glassman mentioned he went to an exhihibition and folk were still buying in Spain . I read the posting and moved on. Pity others can’t do the same without constant conflict.

    • #70315
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @Melosine wrote:

      So Glassman mentioned he went to an exhihibition and folk were still buying in Spain . I read the posting and moved on. Pity others can’t do the same without constant conflict.

      When Dorothy was only offering a (balanced) alternative piece of news from another exhibitor, and the response is:

      “How sad are people at times when even the most basic of positive news is met with so much negatives”– conflict is permanently being stirred.

      What happened to a balanced view you’re always on about, glassman? People are not ‘sad’ just because they contribute something that is not in align with your postings.

      A Good News Thread on certain things like exhibitions with no balanced input can give a totally wrong impression to those ‘not in the know’.
      And that is not helpful to people seeking a truthful overall picture.

    • #70317
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Thanks Charlie……………My only intent was a balanced view…..after that people make their own minds up. πŸ˜‰

    • #70320
      Melosine
      Participant

      Charlie et al ,
      This forum is becoming a battleground. Why?

    • #70333
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Dorothy
      No problem at all with a balancing view and I appreciate that but as can be seen it was instantly jumped on by an unfair posting which is when problems do seem to start. πŸ˜₯

      Charlie 200 posts and by far mostly containing hostile and sarcastic posts and why ? πŸ™

      Claire The difference is that people are much more clued up and knowledgeable so I may use a trip but with a different agenda.
      Lets not forget the thousands that have bough from a viewing trip and the majority are happy
      The people yesterday are not as green as we were and they are not idiots as was clearly observed at the exhibition ( Trust me I do know the difference from the questions asked when I did many exhibitions a few years ago) πŸ˜€

      Katy
      Thank you for your input even though it is misguided.( If I bore you don’t read its that simple) πŸ‘Ώ

      To survive in my opinion the forum needs new blood but for some reason they do not stay around very long (usually go away with their tails beneath their legs) WHY ?
      With the experience on this forum we should be able to help future buyers on what to avoid and perhaps also consider that there is future in Spain after all. πŸ˜†

      Claire . Thanks for your concerns over my personal situation but as things stand I am happy to have an 80% interest only mortgage instead of risking loosing my deposit.
      3 to 5 years and I am confident that I should do O.K .
      The other is being sorted as you are aware I do have good advice.

      2500 + people have hit this thread and what must they think when one person has opened a good news thread for a change and it’s turned in a battle field,
      That’s what the Forum Sad Sindrome must do to you after a year or two but somehow I have this feeling I may not be around ?
      πŸ™„

      Regards Jim

    • #70335
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Jim, if Charlie or I had written your last post we would have been accused by you of being abusive. This is where the problem lies. As much as you would like Charlie and I to leave this forum…we will not go to suit you. I have not experienced so much bad feeling on this forum until you joined, first as sunbelt then as glassman.

      I am not going to get into arguments with you. It’s pointless. But what many people on this forum have not been privy to is the untruthful, salacious and extremely rude posts that you have made about several people on this forum, and in particular to me.

      For you to deride this forum in the way you have recently is unfair. As Flynn said in his/her post:

      I read every thread, everyday and if others are anything like me, they read YOUR threads most as a fascination as to how much longer Mark is going to let them continue, as there seems to be a common theme of threads you post in and arguements

      .

      That theme is to castigate Charlie and I. We only stand our ground. Your constant jibing at us is now more than tedious. You are so obsessed with me you put my name when I’ve never even contributed to the thread.

    • #70336
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Claire
      The postings are there for all to see.(any other privy ones you have my permission to forward onto whoever as they were only in reponce to yours and Charlies)No one else so its not several ? STOP YOUR TRICKS)
      Everyone knows you had me band because I refused to accept your postings directed at me .so again this is old hat.
      My last posing abusive ? oh dear, oh dear ?HAVE I MISSED SOMETHING HERE )We both know that you can say what you like and I cant possibly be abusive even if I wanted to (which I dont)
      No property interest in Los Jardines ( facts wrong again)
      Never have said that I wanted anyone to leave this forum.(confirmed this many times on these threads.
      As with Katy,Flynn has her choice to read my postings,or not as the case may be.
      Seems to me that plenty do. ?
      It was OK before I came along ( thats because it was a one sided forum?)

      JiminSpain has just posted a wonderful new thread with some great advice,why dont you/we/everyone just agree with him.

      Others also have posted that these forums are not in the common interest so why dont we just agree to disagree.(for the sake of the forum and everyone who has an interest in Spanish Property please just agree.

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70337
      Anonymous
      Participant

      JiminTorquay……………….. almost touching distance of me. 😯

    • #70338
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Laury
      I could tell by the even handed postings that you were from this part of the world. Ha .Ha

      WESTCOUNTRY ?.
      Oh no .,just had a thought WESTCOUNTRY ? THICK /IDIOTS WITH GRASS GROWING OUT OF OUR EARS?

      Good to see you hanging in there ?

      Hopefully things will settle down and jimin spain has hopefully started the ball rolling,
      πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70339
      Anonymous
      Participant

      ❓

    • #70341
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Laury
      Think someone is following us and our postings. ❓

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70342
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I just wanted to see how many times you would edit your original post.

    • #70345
      katy
      Blocked

      Well. Jim in spain is an agent πŸ˜• Glassman you have just been banned from another forum for abuse and cross foruming I do not understand what your agenda is. If you have bought something (I am not quite sure what as it seems to change) just state why you are happy with it and leave it at that. I for one am very happy living in marbella, I also do not believe that many developments will be demolished, on the other hand I do think it will take many years for spain (the whole of it) to recover from the endemic corruption which exists.

    • #70347
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Excuse me glassman – but I have never sent you a pm in my life. 😯
      You sent me two, to which I never responded due to their rude content.

      And just for the record, you were not banned from this forum by Mark for the reasons you give above, but because your pm’s to Claire and myself were so abusive – using words like “verbal vomit” and others I wouldn’t repeat here.

      If you really must waste everyone’s time by posting this rubbish, please stick to the truth.

      I notice that when you are discourteous publicly on the forum (as in Dorothy’s case) you now go back and edit it out – which I suppose is an improvement at least on past behaviour when you posted under ‘sunbelt’.

      The fact your halo is shining so brightly on jiminspain’s new thread is, frankly, just laughable.

    • #70353
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Katy
      Yes I was involved in the whole process of orgainsing exhibitions/taking clients on viewing trips in Spain and taking them through the sales process.about 5 years ago (no secret its on my postings)perhaps thats
      why I could notice very encouraging signs at the exhibition.
      I have heard that the Exhibition is going to othere areas as it was so successful

      Posting to Dorothy did not read as intended and corrected.(grammer error thats all ?) You see I was refering to Goodstichs post that followed Dorothy)is that clear?

      Claire
      Yes I do sometimes have to go back and alter a letter or a word as I know you look at each and every word I write to see if it can be manipulated which is so sad.

      Charlie
      Disapointed that you feel that jiminspains thread is laughable.
      As said you are free at anytime to post any message I have sent you you and feel it correct that you point to the two sides.
      Mind you I think everyone must surely have just about had enough and we should as said agree to disagree.

      Katy
      I have not been banned from the other forum and my interests in my Spanish Property is again on the forum for all to see.(nothing changed)

      This is now becoming tiresome and if you wont join with the spirit of jiminspains thread then this matter is close.

      THINK SOMEHOW THAT THIS SHOULD BE THE END OF THE GOODNEWS THREAD.

      Good Day to you Ladys

      Regards
      Jim

    • #70354
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Jim, you twist & manipulate everything to suit you.

    • #70357
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @glassman wrote:

      Charlie
      Disapointed that you feel that jiminspains thread is laughable.

      Now maybe people will understand why this man perpetuates conflict

      I didn’t say that the thread was laughable, just his holier-than-thou posts.

    • #70358
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hi Claire
      With this forum have attracted 3,000 hits in a very short time; think its best to let everyone form their own opinion.
      Sorry will just edit this posting as I appear to have used the word laughable in the wrong context as it was me that was laughable.
      The 3006 can now view that.
      Ladys . Can we please draw a line under THE GOOD NEWS THREAD NOW.

      END OF.

      Regards
      Jim πŸ˜€

    • #70363
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Hola Amigos y Enemigos,

      GOOD NEWS is a cerveza, a tapa of melva con pimientos and a tapa of croquetas caseras for 4,80€ :)!

      BADS NEWS is anything associated with viewing trips:(! I have said this before on other threads. Estate Agency, properly conducted, is a thoroughly laudable and enjoyable profession. The key words here are “Conduct”and “Profession”. Sadly, the overseas property markets are polluted with people who have no interest in their clients. The only thing that matters is their commission. Hopefully the tide is turning as buyers are more wised up and can exercise much more control over the buying process. That’s where Mark’s site performs such a great service.

      No-one wants the market to fall but a positive effect will be to remove many of the charlatans posing as property experts. Now, that would be GOOD NEWS!

      And before the hornets start buzzing, let me say I have 23 years experience as a Chartered Surveyor and 13 years experience buying,restoring and selling property in France and Spain.Am I really that old :(!

      Have a lovely day everyone.

      Saludos,

      James

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