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Usefull info about whats the NIE doc

Postby MateoSolicitor » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:54 am

NIE is an abbreviation for Número de identidad de extranjero, which translates as ‘Identification number for foreigners’. The main purpose of the NIE for Spain is fiscal control. Without a Spanish NIE number, the Spanish tax authorities are unable to assess or process annual tax payments such as income tax (IRPF), and the annual wealth tax (Patrimonio), both of which are paid by non- resident property owners. Not paying these taxes (or making provisions with the Spanish tax authorities to pay these taxes in your country of residence under a double-taxation treaty) can incur heavy fines.
Who needs an NIE in Spain?
1. Any foreigner who becomes resident for tax purposes in Spain needs an NIE number in Spain.
2. Any non-resident foreigner who buys property in Spain. If a couple buys a property in Spain together, and they register the property in both their names, then both of them must obtain an NIE number in Spain.
When do you need to have an NIE number?
If you are buying property in Spain, then you need to have an NIE number Spain by the time you sign the deeds of purchase before notary, an event known in Spain as the escritura.
Getting your NIE number in time for escritura means applying at least 1 month before hand if you are applying in Spain, and at least 2 months before hand if you are applying via a consulate abroad. The actual time it takes depends upon where you apply, and the time of the year. Mateo Lawyers offers to you a service to obtain the document in no more than 10 days
How do you apply for an NIE number?
If you are an EU national there are 3 ways to apply for NIE numbers in Spain:
1. Apply in person in Spain.
2. Apply in person via a Spanish Consulate abroad.
Up to 01/07/2011 it used to be possible for EU nationals to use a power of attorney to authorise a 3rd party to apply on their behalf. Though it still may be possible to do in some areas of Spain (Mateo Lawyers offers to you a service to obtain the document in no more than 10 days).

1. Applying for NIE number in person in Spain
Applying in person for an NIE number whilst in Spain is a relatively straightforward procedure. The only inconvenience is that you may have to wait for up to several hours in a queue in order to submit your application. It does depend upon the police station where you apply, and the time of day (early is better). With a bit of luck you will be in and out in half an hour or less.
The process is as follows:
1) Prepare the necessary documentation:
Your passport and a photocopy of the main page of your passport (the page that includes your photo, name, passport number, address, etc.).
Sometimes the applying offices ask you for an original document (plus a photocopy) that justifies your reason for applying for an NIE number. If you are applying because you are buying a property in Spain then you will need to take along the official copy of the deeds of purchase given to you by the Notary (called a copia simple in Spanish). If you have not yet signed the deeds before Notary then you will need to take along the private contract of sale that you have signed with the vendor or developer. This documentation is not always necessary (depends upon the police station), but best have it with you just incase.
If you are a non-EU national you will need to produce a document that demonstrates your legal entry into Spain. This is the document (for instance a landing card) that you fill in at the immigration desk at your point of entry into Spain. In Spanish this document is known as a declaración de entrada.
2 copies of the appropriate application form filled out and signed . The Spanish name for the NIE form Spain is Solicitud de NIE.(Ex-14), and you can download this NIE application form by clicking on the link below using google web search (+ NIE application form / solicitud de NIE (Ex-14)) . This will open up a new browser window and display the form in ‘pdf’ format.


2) Take all documentation in person to the appropriate place of submission.
You have to go to one of the immigration offices (oficinas de extranjeros) that are usually found in designated police stations (comisaría de policía), preferably in the area where you are buying your property. If there is no immigration office in your area then it should be possible to make your application through a local police station. In any event the local police station will be able to tell you the best place to go to apply for an NIE in your area.
To see a list with contact details and opening hours of the ‘oficinas de extranjeros throughout Spain click on the following link and then choose your region:
+ Ofincinas de extranjeros throughout Spain
NOTE: In some regions, for instance in Asturias, you may have to pay a small tax of a few Euros when you apply for an NIE. In this case you will be given a payment form when you submit your application. You have to show proof of payment (the stamped receipt from the bank) in order to collect your NIE.
3) Collect NIE number after 15 days (or less)
After you have submitted your NIE application you will be given an official receipt (resguardo). Unless you are told otherwise, you will be able to collect your NIE number from the office where you made your application anytime from 15 days later (in some areas, at some times of the year, it may take longer, which is why we recommend applying a month in advance). You do not have to collect your NIE in person – anyone can collect it for you if they have the official receipt you were given when you submitted your application.
NOTE: The time it takes to get an NIE varies greatly by region. Whilst it is still common in most areas to wait 15 days or more before collecting an NIE.
Generally speaking, it is also quicker to obtain an NIE from a local tax office than from one of the designated police stations. Applications via a tax office tend to take a few days, compared to a few weeks via police stations. Applying via a tax office does mean, however, that the Spanish tax office is aware of your situation as an owner of property in Spain. This makes it more likely that the tax office will pursue you for taxes related to owning property in Spain, such as the wealth tax (patrimonio), and income tax (IRPF), which all property owners in Spain have to pay, irrespective of fiscal residence.

2. Applying for an NIE number in person via a Spanish Consulate abroad
You can also apply for an NIE from Spanish consulates around the world if you do not have the time to apply whilst you are in Spain.
+ More information from the Spanish Consulate in London
The process is as follows:
1) Prepare the necessary documentation:
Your passport and a photocopy of the main page of your passport (the page that includes your photo, name, passport number, address, etc.).
2 recent passport size photographs with a plain coloured background.
2 copies of the appropriate application form duly completed but NOT SIGNED as you will need to sign in the presence of a consular official. The Spanish consulate will not be able to provide you with this form so you must obtain it beforehand. The Spanish name for this application form is Solicitud de NIE. para residentes en el extranjero (Ex-14bis), and you can download it by clicking on the link below. This will open up a new browser window and display the forms in ‘pdf’ format.
A self-addressed envelope (no stamp)
An envelope addressed to:
Comisaría General de Extranjería y Documentación
Dirección General de Policia
C/ General Pardiñas, 90
28006 Madrid
Tel: +34 91 322 6824 / 26
It appears that there is no longer any fee to pay (you used to have to pay a cheque of £22 to "The Spanish Consulate General"). You may wish to ring the consulate beforehand to check this, or just take your cheque book along to be on the safe side.
You might also have to produce an original document (plus a photocopy) that justifies your reason for applying for an NIE number. If you are applying for an NIE number because you have bought a property in Spain, this means the official copy of the deeds of purchase given to you by the Notary (called a copia simple in Spanish). If you have not yet signed the deeds before Notary then the private contract of sale that you have signed with the vendor or developer. This documentation might not be necessary, but best have it with you just in case. If you don’t have it, then don’t worry too much, as both London and Manchester consulates say they don’t require it.
+ NIE application form / solicitud de NIE (Ex-14)
If the link above doesn’t work, the form is also attached at the bottom of this page.
2) Take all documentation in person to your nearest Spanish Consulate.
You have to go in person with all the relevant documentation to your nearest Spanish consulate. The Spanish Consulate cannot issue NIE numbers; it only acts as a "postal box" between the applicant and the competent authorities in Spain. Once you have submitted your application through the Consulate they will not be able to provide you with any further information on the status of your application. For any further information or enquires as to the status of your application you should write to the address given above for the Comisaría General de Extranjería y Documentación.
For contact details of Spanish Consulates in the United Kingdom see below:
3) Await notification from the Spanish authorities
If all goes well you should receive your number through the post within 4 – 6 weeks. IMPORTANT NOTE: If you want to have the NIE number sent to your address abroad, make sure you print this address very carefully on the application form, and also include a self-addressed envelope (no stamp). The website of the Spanish consulate in London says you have to use an address in Spain, but the consulate in Manchester says you can have your NIE sent to you in the UK. This is conflicting advice, and I cannot tell you for sure which version is correct.

3. Authorise a 3rd party to apply on your behalf
As of the 1st January 2004, any foreigner wishing to obtain an NIE number has to apply in person, unless they authorise before Notary a 3rd party to apply on their behalf. What does ‘before Notary’ mean? It means that you have to go before a Notary Public in Spain or another country (you can also go to the Spanish Consul General if outside of Spain), and authorise a 3rd party to apply for the NIE number on your behalf. If you go to a notary outside of Spain this document will also need the Hague Apostille and an official translation. By this process you grant a notarised power of attorney that is recognised by the Spanish government, and that specifically enables a 3rd party to apply for the NIE number on your behalf.
To apply on your behalf a 3rd party– normally your lawyer or a gestor – will need the same documentation as detailed above in the section on applying in person.
Lawyers in Spain often charge between 200 and 250 Euros for obtaining an NIE number, Mateo Lawyers offers to you a service to obtain the document in no more than 10 days for cheapest price.(info@costadelsolsolicitors.com or info@mateo-lawyers.com)
Spanish Consulates in the United Kingdom:
London
Address:
20, Draycott Place.-London SW3 2RZ
Telephone:
0207 589 89 89
Fax:
0207 581 78 88
Email:

conspalon@mail.mae.es
Web:
http://www.conspalon.org
Since the Economic crisis of 2008 the Spanish Government has been closing consular offices to save money. The following consular offices may or may not still exist. Please ring the London office first to confirm if these offices still exist.
Manchester
Address:
Suite 1A, Brookhouse, 70, Spring Gardens.-Manchester M2 2BQ
Telephone:
0161 236 12 62
Fax:
0161 228 74 67
Email:

cg.manchester@mae.es
Edinburgh
Address:
63, North Castle Street.-Edinburgh EH2 3LJ
Telephone:
0131 220 18 43
0131 220 14 39
Fax:
0131 226 45 68
Email:

cgspedimburgo@mail.mae.es
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Re: Usefull info about whats the NIE doc

Postby mark » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:12 pm

Why have you copied and pasted my guide to Spanish NIE numbers in this forum?
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Re: Usefull info about whats the NIE doc

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Re: Usefull info about whats the NIE doc

Postby MateoSolicitor » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:11 pm

Dear mark,

I think that is very usefull, is a good guide and is only information. If you want I can write other different but if this is ok in my opninion is good to use this guide because is according with the info that I have.

I can offer a big range of legal services but this is only information for new people in Spain is one of the first docs that they´ll need in Spain to make possible important transactions.

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Re: Usefull info about whats the NIE doc

Postby itsme » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:38 pm

It seems a bit like 'new lambs to the slaughter come with me......' ?? ;) Who can anyone trust in Spain?

Free good legal advice MateoSolicitor, fantastic.... I have a blooming load of things I want to ask 'why' about but after the amount we've been conned here (and my husband is Spanish by the way!) we have no money left for solicitors. Offer your genuine services for free and we'll all be happy :)
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