I am English and a Unionist. My second loyalty is to Spain . Its amatter of first principles. You cannot have regions for purely selfish reasons just wandering off because they think they can rat on their obligations to the Nation – even if they lose this referendum it will not stop there – any future excuse that comes upthat gives a better chance -it will come back and you cannot go on like this. Hopefully both these referendums will be lost the two nations will get their acts together and sort out the underlying issues that are causing these schisms. No referendum should be valid WITHOUT THE NATIONS AS A WHOLE HOLDING NATIONAL REFERENDUMS TO VALIDATE WHETHER CATALONIA OR SCOTLAND CAN SECEDE FROM THE UNIONS. WITHOUT SUCH VALIDATION regional referendums must be deemed INVALID !