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  • #54955
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    Anybody else had this phone call and email…. I expect Katy and Inez will know all about it – For those who cant be bothered just scroll down to the end and see “MONEY BACK guarantee”!!!

    strangely no mention of the commission to US , if they are dropping 5% to joint agents…..

    Thanks for taking the time to speak with me, and as promised I will confirm the details of the marketing strategies that we are able to provide, in order to increase your opportunities when trying to effect a sale on your property.

    Please call me if you would like to discuss this further.

    Click on the link below to view the current edition of HOT Properties

    Hot Properties Issue 83

    HOT PROPERTIES MAGAZINE

    Hot Properties Magazine was first published more than ten years ago and is recognized as the best property Magazine serving the Costa del Sol. Its value as a vehicle, to promote and highlight individual properties for sale, has never been greater.

    Hot Properties can make a difference by allowing a property to stand out from the crowd. Its popularity has meant that – unless you pick up a copy on the day it is published – you may have found it difficult to obtain.

    Hot Properties is now available in a digital version. This means that it can be sent to an email address and allows the recipient to read the magazine on the screen turning the pages with a click of a mouse.

    Hot Properties – unlike many other publications that vendors may choose to promote their properties – has a long shelf life. This is because of its sheer size and its stunning quality, which makes it difficult to throw away. Previous editions litter the coffee tables of homes the length of the coast and even worldwide

    Full page in the next issue of HOT Properties

    Plus a quarter page in the next two editions

    Circulation 20,000

    Readership 60,000

    Full page in the next issue of the digital version of HOT Properties

    Plus a quarter page in the next two editions

    Emailed to 60,000

    SUR IN ENGLISH

    The Sur in English is the biggest read English language newspaper on the Costa del Sol. It is a source of news and information, and is important for the English speaking community with regard to living or staying in this part of Spain.

    The Sur In English has also recently introduced a digital edition of the newspaper. They have also recognized the power and importance of digital technology and how information is delivered to the individual.

    The Sur in English used to carry several pages of property, supplied by many real estate companies that where trading on the coast. We aim to use this option again, as it has always proved to be effective in generating interest in specific properties.

    The Sur In English will probably continue to carry very few – if any – large adverts placed by real estate companies. This will lend itself to a more effective impact of our advert and the properties it will contain.

    Property advertised in the Sur in English

    Sur in English Circulation 52,000

    Readership 150,000

    RIGHTMOVE

    Rightmove.co.uk is the UK’s number one property website displaying details of homes for sale or rent to the largest online audience.
    It has around 90% of all properties for sale and at any time displays a stock of over 1,000,000 properties to buy or rent, worth around £270 billion.

    The Rightmove.co.uk site receives over 35 million visits a month and serves some 400 million pages of property information to end users.

    It has been ranked as high as 7th in terms of most viewed UK websites (source: Hitwise) and was named ‘Best UK Property Portal’ at the 2007 Daily Mail Property Awards.

    Rightmove was also named ‘Best Homes website’ in the BT Online Excellence Awards 2007.

    Property advertised in the Spain section in rightmove.co.uk

    Over 6,000 registered visitors to the property in Spain pages

    YOUR VIVA NETWORKING

    We have always understood the importance of building relationships with other agents, to the mutual benefit of all. We also appreciate that they can a play a key role in increasing interest and viewings for our vendors.

    As we build our listing portfolio with well priced ready for sale properties, we will continue to promote these to our network of agents. Over time we have gained the confidence of other agents who recognize our efforts in producing great listings.

    What can we do now to increase the number of viewings that our vendors may expect from marketing their property through us, with regard to viewings from other agents and their buyers? We have decided to make it more financially attractive for them to do this.

    Generally speaking most agents charge a commission of 5% to vendors. If this is shared between two agents, they usually split the commission, providing each with 2.5%. What we propose to do, is to make the property available to the other agents at the full 5%.

    We believe that together with the quality of our listings and the financial benefit to the agents, we will create a lot more interest in our properties and in turn generate more viewings for the vendor. .

    Property available to all other agents for a commission of 5%

    Regular newsletter to 650+ Agents

    YOUR VIVA WEBSITE

    We have created what we consider to be one of the best property web sites currently on the internet. The property would be placed on the all new Your Viva website which will be kept ranking very highly on Google, for people who enter numerous search terms relating to Spanish property

    Property placed on the Your Viva web site

    Hundreds of high ranking search terms

    More than 10,000 unique visitors every month

    MY VIVA

    When any prospective buyer registers on the Your Viva website and enters details of the type of property they are looking for, they are taken to a page with properties that match their criteria. The ‘My Viva’ component will then recognize any new or future addition to the website and then send that property directly to the recipients email inbox.

    My Viva will deliver your property directly to your profiled buyer

    Currently more than 8,000 registered subscribers to My VIva

    WEEKLY NEWSLETTER

    We will send out a weekly newsletter to our database of over 60,000 in which will include all the latest news on the Spanish property market as well as several featured properties.

    Your property as a Featured Property in the newsletter

    60,000 recipients of the newsletter

    PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER

    We will employ the services of a professional photographer who will produce superb images of your property. When the property appears on our website, Rightmove, Sur in English, and especially Hot Properties magazine, its appearance will be positively enhanced.

    Photographer to provide you with the most attractive images.

    MONEY BACK GUARANTEE

    When we sell your property we will give you back the money you have spent with us on marketing your property, whether we do it directly or in collaboration with another agent.

    Money back if we sell your property

    I am sure you will agree that this package offers a creative, innovative and unique opportunity, and raises the profile of your property to its maximum potential, which if you are serious about selling in today’s market is we believe absolutely essential.

  • #91936
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    No, I havent the time to find out what they are up to to be honest. If they are giving the 5% to any joint agents and the marketing money back then I wonder how they will fund their offices staff etc!!

    All very interesting and shows that some at least have some optimism about the future on the coast here.

  • #91941
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    MONEY BACK GUARANTEE

    When we sell your property we will give you back the money you have spent with us on marketing your property, whether we do it directly or in collaboration with another agent.

    Money back if we sell your property

    Does this mean that they are charging sellers upfront…again 🙄 Sellers should find out if there are actually any buyers out there before laying out any money, be it 40 odd euro to advertise on a website or whatever, think about it, way to go for a dead property market, cash upfront as they know there is little chance of selling anything.just a legal scam 👿

  • #91956
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    🙄

    I just called them up to explain further – its 5% commission and apparently 1000E for the “refundable” marketing charge. so assume average house is around 400,000 at 5% = thats 20,000 euros commisson …. PLUS they would like us to pay in advance for their magazine and website 😈 😈 😈

    I wonder how many people will go for this, not only are they making 20,000 which they split – or give – to the other agent???? so we pay this 1000E charge in advance to basically run the company?

    Does anyone know if its a “real” company with staff and salesmen or just a call center with a website.

    Sorry Inez but can’t agree that this sort of marketing shows faith in the market turning around. I’m more with the other view that its just a get rich quick scheme for the people behind the company.

    I’d feel a lot more confident if a salesman came around and evaluated the house before all this talk of pay FIRST and then we’ll come round and photograph it for our website.

  • #91957
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    @banushouse wrote:

    🙄

    I just called them up to explain further – its 5% commission and apparently 1000E for the “refundable” marketing charge. so assume average house is around 400,000 at 5% = thats 20,000 euros commisson …. PLUS they would like us to pay in advance for their magazine and website 😈 😈 😈

    I wonder how many people will go for this, not only are they making 20,000 which they split – or give – to the other agent???? so we pay this 1000E charge in advance to basically run the company?

    Does anyone know if its a “real” company with staff and salesmen or just a call center with a website.

    Sorry Inez but can’t agree that this sort of marketing shows faith in the market turning around. I’m more with the other view that its just a get rich quick scheme for the people behind the company.

    I’d feel a lot more confident if a salesman came around and evaluated the house before all this talk of pay FIRST and then we’ll come round and photograph it for our website.

    Are people so desperate to sell and so ignorant that they will pay some sharks tens of thousands of Euros to put their property on their webpage??????

    What’s wrong with segundamano.com or surinenglish? They don’t cost almost anything…

  • #91959
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    flosmichael

    yes, at best it smacks of desperation. If they had any confidence in the market, I would have thought they would back it themselves until commision starts rolling in from sold units. Money up-front shouts lack of confidence in their ability to sell, and how many £1,000 upfront payments might equate to ”oh well, lets wind it up anyway” and goodbye to all those who have put money up front……..try getting it back now!!!

    I wouldn’t have thought most would touch it with a barge pole?

  • #91966
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    Unfortunately, some people have short memories. This is the THIRD time they have launched a “give us yer money” scheme. Remember the 2% commision and free legal? Someone I know paid them 700 euro for that one (they didn’t sell it), then there was pay around 350 euro to feature your property in Viva mag which was previously free!

    Really re-enforces what the state of the property market is in when they go for these rip-offs 👿 I would tell them to get stuffed, plenty more agents around

  • #91967
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    Very short memories indeed. There are many pay up front schemes being bandied about at the moment; magazines, property search agents operating from back bedrooms, “bargain 50% off lists” where you need to send €150 to receive a list of C _ _ P .

    TO take money upfront is questionable especially for an estate agent; the one’s i know will refuse your property if the price you are asking is unrealistic or indeed they think the property is unsaleable !! Good agents don’t list crap and will tell you up front …………… the problem also is that many of the experts (Ocean and the rest of that ilk) don’t know the value of property and it is left to the seller to put a price on their pride and joy; if the buyer is paying up front to advertise the selling agent will just purr with delight as the vendor signs the check!!

  • #91972
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    I have had a conversation with someone from vendor servives at Viva. He told me that they have been in liquidation and are a new company with the old viva website and magazine. I am considering signing up with these guys as their offer of help is quite attractive.

    A fool and his money are easily parted but I feel that having a full page in their magazine and the other things are quite good. These guys have assured me that this is all backed up with proper real estate support. The thing that I liked was that they are going to offer the full commission to the other agents. That does not sound like a scam to me. I have seen the magazine on line and it looks very impressive.

    What should I do?

  • #91976
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    Go back to your job at Your Viva. 🙄

  • #91977
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    😆 😆

    Or he is just a fool 😆

  • #91982
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    @Detached wrote:

    A fool and his money are easily parted but I feel that having a full page in their magazine and the other things are quite good. These guys have assured me that this is all backed up with proper real estate support. The thing that I liked was that they are going to offer the full commission to the other agents. That does not sound like a scam to me. I have seen the magazine on line and it looks very impressive.

    What should I do?

    why not list it with a several agencies that come recommended? at least you won’t have the marketing costs.

    Also, regardless If they offer another agency the full commission, it appears that a vast majority of the properties on their website (going by reference numbers) are not theirs. So you are going to be competing with alot of properties.

    Or go with your viva, but tell them you will pay for the marketing costs (itemised bill) when they sell the property, along with the 5%. Hell at least that would be more honest of them.

  • #91983
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    @katy wrote:

    😆 😆

    Or he is just a fool 😆

    or desperate, unfortunately

  • #91984
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    @Detached wrote:

    I have had a conversation with someone from vendor servives at Viva. He told me that they have been in liquidation and are a new company with the old viva website and magazine. I am considering signing up with these guys as their offer of help is quite attractive.

    A fool and his money are easily parted but I feel that having a full page in their magazine and the other things are quite good. These guys have assured me that this is all backed up with proper real estate support. The thing that I liked was that they are going to offer the full commission to the other agents. That does not sound like a scam to me. I have seen the magazine on line and it looks very impressive.

    What should I do?

    Do people from VIVA know that we are in 2009? In 2009 the main selling point for apartments/houses is the price. Who cares about shining maazines? Only uninformed and lazy people get their information from magazines and then pay over the top. These people are not in the market in 2009 because they already lost their “investment money”,

  • #91987
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    5% plus €1000 expenses. Rediculous.

    Most people desperate to sell can’t afford money up front like this.

    Yes, sounds like a scam to me.

  • #91989
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    @UBEDA wrote:

    Does anyone know if its a “real” company with staff and salesmen or just a call center with a website

    .

    a good question? they seem to cover a huge area; must require a large team of experienced property boffins to manage such a territory !

    UBeda

    easy have ‘regional/area’ experts. So 1 salesman deal with marbella, another estepona, another mijas/fuengirola, etc…

    in regards to covering a huge area, well that’s easy. infocasa.

  • #92021
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    Does anyone know if its a “real” company with staff and salesmen or just a call center with a website

    Ok I’ll give their kind offer a miss then. It sounds a bit of a shambles, I called them back today to see if they had a salesman who could visit and sell me the concept – and they where unable to find any records of me being a client (or punter!).

    still waiting to be called……

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