XL Leisure Group near collapse

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  • #86131
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    85.000 britons stranded abroad!

    Is this a nightmare?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7611639.stm

  • #86139
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    Near collapse? It is done already…

    I guess this is good news for Spain as holidays to far away places will become prohibitely expensive in the near future.

  • #86161
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    Apparently, the cost of a ticket to fly to Spain went from £400 to £900 today! Supply & demand.

  • #86162
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    Fly Sunday or Monday then

    Sun 14 September
    £89.99
    This is how your fare is calculated:easyJet flight: £74.99
    Airport operator charges and government taxes: £15.00
    dep. 19:20, arr. 23:10

    Mon 15 September
    £79.99
    This is how your fare is calculated:easyJet flight: £64.99
    Airport operator charges and government taxes: £15.00
    dep. 15:45, arr. 19:35

    No flights for Saturday

  • #86166
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    💡 Wonderful info Paul! 3 days spent at the airport (they have no accommodation to go back to) for these unfortunate people/ families sounds just great! How do these people who are stranded get access to this info that you presumably got sitting at your PC? Answer…they don’t…that’s the problem for most of them.

    EasyJet has a small baggage allowance. Add the extortionate cost of excess baggage on to those fares.

  • #86168
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    According to SKY news the 900 quoted was a one-way from Dalman, Turkey. The stranded people are probably at the mercy of robbing local travel agents who are taking advantage. Could also be that scheduled airlines have only business class left.

    Hoe you enjoyed your holiday claire 🙂

  • #86170
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    Hope you enjoyed your holiday claire

    Well Katy, we enjoyed it as much as was possible, considering our grandaughter went down with chickenpox 6 days into our holiday! We certainly had value for money from our (thank heavens) air conditioned apartment. Our daughter and grandaughter are still in Majorca as they could not fly home with us. The weather has been terrible there the last few days with terrible thunderstorms and rain!
    We need another holiday!! 😀

  • #86171
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    You are correct Claire my post was as useless as yours

    I am deeply sorry I fell to that level.

  • #86172
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    WHY do you have to be so rude Paul? My post was relevant to the topic and completely inoffensive, ( except to yourself of course.)

  • #86173
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    ……cos he’s a nasty piece of work Claire, that’s why.

    getting back to the thread. How long do you think Ryan air or sleazy jet will be able (or feel the need to) carry on with cheap flights, especially on the slightly longer one’s like Turkey for instance. We flew to Treviso in Italy in the school holidays for just over two hundred pounds return for all 4, including airport tax, baggage etc. Can’t see prices like that next year in peak season?

  • #86174
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    Hi Goodstitch, 🙂
    I think the days of cheap air fares may be a thing of the past. The travel industry appear to be saying that there needs to be a correction in the market and these airline collapses will bring that about.
    On a personal level we never use package holidays and always pay by credit card to help protect our payments. In the light of the XL airways collapse, package holidays may come into their own again for many that have by-passed the travel agencies over the years. At least they give some protection I guess.

  • #86175
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    Well Claire I didn’t take offence I was just pointing out that your post suggesting that airfairs TO Spain where now £900 is just as useless as my post pointing out that airfares TO Spain are £90.

    Both pieces of information are useless to anyone stranded IN Spain, and I got caught up in the useless post phonomenum which happens on this forum, for which i am deeply sorry.

    Goodstich44

    Lets just agree that you think I’m a “a nasty piece of work” and i think you a total idiot who bought blind without doing any research, and call it a day. I know there are people who think neither is correct but as we are resorting to name calling lets do it properly.

  • #86176
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    Paul I am careful what I post these days. 😉 I was not suggesting air fares to Spain were £900. I was quoting what both my husband and I heard on the early BBC Breakfast news yesterday morning from someone stranded at a UK airport. £900 to Spain. (They were not IN Spain. ) Hence I used the word apparently. It was said it was because of supply and demand. Was it a return fare? I would think/hope so!

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    p800aul

    sorry, an ignorant nasty piece of work.

  • #86178
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    Goodstich

    Not that ignorant as to be conned.and lose my money.How’s that going by the way?

    Claire

    Your reply is just as pointless.

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    Claire

    due to the last two dreadful summers we have had here, i would think many will want to go abroad next year, even allowing for the credit crunch? If the cheap air fares are not available, i wonder if the South Of France and Costa Brava will get a boost, as the closest ‘hot spots’ within driving distance? We have done this by car and motorbike. A long drive, but always a bit of an adventure.

  • #86180
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    Claire

    someone used a strapline…. ‘never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience’…….

    i think we should take heed to that!!

  • #86182
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    Of course goodstich you have all of the qualifications to spot a idiot. If I am your definition of an idiot where are you in your scale, remember now I’ve not been conned out of my money in Spain.

  • #86183
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    Unfortunately, getting conned in Spain runs across all classes and levels of intelligence. Paul what did you do when you bought off-plan that was any different to what Goodstitch did?

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    katy

    as you know we have a strong case of breach of contract on several issue’s. + No LFO, at time of completion, no BG , and over two year late build time, etc. In desperation, the developer even tried to say they hadn’t had our deposit, even though we have a contract???

    When people still blame us, and the many others in a similar situation by saying it’s our fault we were conned, it defies belief. We can’t discuss with those who can’t even see right from wrong. It would be as pointless as trying to have a sensible conversation with the developer!

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    Katy

    The easy answer is I didn’t get conned.

    But this is not about reason it’s about someone who has no idea who I am or what I’m like calling me “ignorant nasty piece of work” and an “idiot”.

    So this is about name calling,not reason, and while I’ve been sat watching my kids play, taking them to swimming lessons, having lunch with grandma and now back home to play in the garden, i thought I’d join in (blackberry wireless device you see, take note Claire).

    I agree it would be a useful thread (we did have these on this forum once) to discuss without blame or jealousy what every successful purchase did and how that might differ from those that got conned (most likely through no fault of their own.) Can’t see it myself as Goodstich would probally get the wind up and think we (I) were calling him an idiot and trying say he was to blame as he always does.

    Anyway off to the garden my children await.

    Regards

    Paul

  • #86188
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    Before I went away, Paul butted in and made unnecessary personal remarks to me. e.g.

    (blackberry wireless device you see, take note Claire).

    🙄 and disrupted the thread. He trivialises most things I say. He appears to have an axe to grind . Grind away Paul 😆
    Perhaps you should visit Charlies “grumpy old men” thread, and vent your frustrations there. 😉

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    Claire/katy

    just thought i’d post this again, as it got a bit lost!

    due to the last two dreadful summers we have had here, i would think many will want to go abroad next year, even allowing for the credit crunch? If the cheap air fares are not available, i wonder if the South Of France and Costa Brava will get a boost, as the closest ‘hot spots’ within driving distance? We have done this by car and motorbike. A long drive, but always a bit of an adventure. Is it to far to drive for most do you think?

  • #86190
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    I think driving is definitely an option. It means you are a free agent. One of our best holidays was when we got in the car and drove to France. We visited the Loire Valley and visited many of the beautiful Chateaux. We only pre-booked one night, staying in a stunning Chateau. We did the rest “on spec” We had a fabulous trip. When our children were young, we always drove to the South of France. St Tropez and also to Argeles and Carcassonne. We are going to drive to Frigiliana at some stage as we have so many bits and bobs that we leave at the apartment we rent. We want to bring them back here sometime. I think we would probably take a three week break if we drove. We have several friends who always drive to France and two couples who drive from the CDS and Costa Brava to visit family in the UK. They are both retirees.

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    claire

    i think a good compromise to the South of France is the autorail. It’s expensive though sadly.

    We took the Plymouth to Santander ferry on our motorbike two years running. 24 hours, but slept well and woke up as we were coming in to Spain. We found some very quaint little villages and lovely people in the mountains in the North. Like going back in time.

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    To quote you Claire

    How do these people who are stranded get access to this info that you presumably got sitting at your PC? Answer…they don’t…that’s the problem for most of them.

    My comment not personal even by the most perverse standards.

    blackberry wireless device you see, take note Claire

    Get it 😉

    Before I went away, Paul butted in and made unnecessary personal remarks to me.

    I suggest you need to read the thread again Claire as i think you may be over egging the pudding ….. again

    http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3537

    I think you accused someone of making silly comments, a comment i agreed with.

    Your post was about it being to noisy in Spain because of all of the Spaniards. The post from another was “why go to Spain” Your response was you were too busy to reply to silly comments as you where packing for your holiday to Majorca. I happen to think that this was indeed “Irony as an art form” and very clever.

    We also taked about the pools in Majorca being full of water while you where on holiday, which you said was personal.

    Funny stuff we should write a book

    And no I’m not leaving it.

  • #86210
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    IN THE HOPE OF GETTING AWAY FROM THIS CHILDISH BITCHING….. Those who do choose the Costa Brava next year (see earlier posts) may find it is not quite as cheap as they think nowadays unless they want to go to Tossa or Lloret. Those accustomed to renting villas in the CDS will find them far more expensive in the CB, particularly in the Begur area, which was recently named in the top three most expensive places in Spain to rent during August. My advice would be to steer clear of July and August if you do want to go. Our villa was full for only 11 weeks during the summer at around that time, but at 1700 euros a week. Oh – and book early.

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    colinB

    I’ve tried to steer it back to the original thread twice now.

    South of France camping for our next family holiday i think. Not much more expensive than Spain anymore, and we can drive if the low cost air fares come to an end. CB is close enough for a day trip also.

    We stayed near on CB near calella 3 years ago. Very nice.

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