What chance justice with Spanish judges?

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  • #52720
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    It makes one wonder;

    260 km/hour driver found not guilty of dangerous driving
    Fri, 16 Mar 2007, 08:20
    ‘Typically Spanish’

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    The Provincial Court in Burgos has overturned a six month jail sentence and two year driving ban handed down by Penal Court 1 in the city, against a man, Constantino García Suárez, who had been driving down a local motorway at 260 kms/hour.

    The judge in the provincial chamber considered that ‘dangerous driving’ charge did not apply. The judge admitted that the speed did reduce the driver’s reaction time and was an obvious danger, he had to take into account that there was no ‘concrete danger to anyone’. No one had to make an evasive manoeuvre, he said.
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    No evasive manoeuvre? Oh, that makes it OK then.

  • #70065
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    A friend of ours got fined and 3 points for doing 34mph in a 30mph zone!! No one was killed, no evasive action needed to be taken by other drivers. Not in an area with children/schools. But then this is the judicial system in the UK!!

  • #70070
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    Charlie/Claire

    my 72 year old father, was fined and got 3 points, for 33mph in a place not near schools, shops etc. A few years ago however, i was pulled up on the M5, for doing speeds in excess of 90mph on my 1000cc motorbike i had at the time, and let off with no fine or points, just a warning about using my mirrors more, as they had been following me from a distance for quite some time!, so it does vary here somewhat as well.

  • #70074
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    A colleague of my husband had a similar experience, Goodstitch, only he was driving a Porche. When the police finally stopped him, and he explained the perfomance/breaking system to them…he got off with a warning!!! Sometimes, I think they just like the chase!! My daughter was /is a policeman before she started a family. Very interesting tales!! 😉

  • #70083
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    My husband was killed, together with a very close friend, on a straight stretch of road, when a driver in a van went over on the wrong side of the road while being distracted on his mobile. He was charged with careless driving, was fined 500 pounds and banned from driving for six months. This is the penalty in the u.k for taking two peoples lives!

  • #70084
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    Oh my goodness. That puts everything into perspective. My heartfelt sympathy.

    Claire

  • #70085
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    I am torn on this one. As the forum users are aware that I am no fan of Spanish Justice system.

    In UK, the so called traffic management is all about making money, as the police can keep the proceeds. The 3 points are dished out to pefectly good drivers and law abiding citizens ( I cant see how paying a certain monetry penalty restores a persons legal position/and makes him/her a good citizen)

    Come insurance renewal time, Insurance premium goes up, as this goes up so does the Insurance tax and you guessed it chancellor Brown takes more tax from you. Its all extortion no matter how it gets dressed up.

    With 40 million or so cars in UK and the related deaths etc (of course every death is a loss to socity, family, friends) are within the accepted level. A driver is the best person to judge the road conditions and if he/she is not than he/she should not be given a licence.

  • #70086
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    Thanks Claire, Yes it has been a very difficult and traumatic time to say the least and I feel that the court case was just a joke. The driver showed no remorse what so ever and was obviously very satisfied with the outcome, although he considered appealing. He even said to a fire flighter on the scene when asked if he was o.k that he was just p····ed off .Our friend, who also was killed, left behind four children, the youngest only six years old. I loved my husband very much and am very grateful for the thirty years we had together. In the eyes of the law, life is cheap.

  • #70087
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    IMHO, there are times when the law and some judges are a complete ass – and a total insult to the victims.
    When there is no justice to be seen, how hard it must be for some kind of closure. Especially in your case laggen.
    It really does make one wonder on what kind of planet/closeted world these judges live in.

  • #70089
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    laggen

    i’m just so sorry to read that. The justice system is just insulting in this case. Our thoughts are with you.

  • #70090
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    Laggan, I am very sorry to read your tragic event.

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