- November 1, 2006 at 7:41 pm #52415
According to Wed 1 nov edition of the (Irish )Daily mail it is reported that A Snr Antonio Vercher , who is Senior state prosecutor in charge of protecting the Enviroment accuses the homeowners of snapping up cut price houses and so destroying the enviroment. The article reported him as saying that they should have looked into the property register to ensure the land was registered to build and he agrees that these houses should be demolished.
I could not believe it when I read it, he also dismisses claims that they were duped into buying them . I think Snr Vercher is living in another planet if he thinks this sort of thing is not going on every day in Spain or maybe he just would like the world to think that we are all just a greedy bunch of people who love handing over our hard earned money to unscrupulous developers backed by unscrupulous estate agents.
he also goes on to say that if ,or when the properties are demolished that we should then try and optain compensation through the Judicial system.
- November 1, 2006 at 8:26 pm #67171
I have seen this discussed on other forums and suprisingly many Brits are agreeing with this 😯 Some owners have actually got building licences and FLO from dodgy Town Halls which have then been revoked by the Junta de andalucia so how could buyers predict this happening 😈
- November 1, 2006 at 9:08 pm #67172
I too could not believe my eyes when I read it today in the Daily Mail, I had to read it a couple of times to have it sink in. I am just after sending off an article to the Daily mail urging them to investigate the extent of all the corruption, fraud and such that is under investigation in Costa del sol at present under “operation Malaya” and then after that confront Snr Vercher and ask him again if he really thinks the people were greedy or the real reason duped and conned into handing over their money for these apartments.
I really feel so bad for these poor people at the receiving end of this and to add insult to injury to say it was their own fault and that they were greedy to buy cheap apartments , than thats just not on!!
- November 1, 2006 at 9:17 pm #67173
- November 1, 2006 at 10:09 pm #67174
- November 1, 2006 at 11:05 pm #67176
We ars victims of this scandal. 🙁 see my thread “Your Voice In Euro Corridors Of Power”
We need a loud voice(many people)!!
- November 2, 2006 at 9:07 am #67177
I have strong views on this as I am the victim of an illegal build, albeit being duped by a town hall issuing paperwork looking like a building licence, having paid for the said licence. Hopefully our 4 years is nearly up and we may be able to legalise our house under the “antiquity” rule.
Until then we are living in a house, but on paper we have no assets at all, having sold up in the UK.
I did notice that we are not alone in “being greedy” as the former Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar bought an apartment in Malaga that has turned out to be illegal.
- November 2, 2006 at 10:51 am #67184
Were people DUPED originally by the Developers or by the Estate Agents, either way, it’s them who should be held accountable?
Makes me cringe when Vercher and others say it’s the purchasers who have been greedy, total rubbish, it’s the selling agent and Developer as well as the Town Halls.
- November 21, 2006 at 7:27 am #67443
- November 21, 2006 at 7:58 am #67445
What is Hillybilly??? 😕 😕
LATER……..Thanks Dorothy. 😀 For those as stupid as me, I see “Telegraph” is in blue!!! 😳
- November 21, 2006 at 8:11 am #67447
I don’t know how you put a link in this format either. Maybe someone could enlighten us novices. 😀
- November 21, 2006 at 8:35 am #67448
It is all very well for the authorities to say that providing people can prove that they bought in good faith their buildings will be saved, but considering the number of buildings/people affected it is going to take years & years for them to do this IF they have to go through the Courts.
The people from the upper level of Green Hills” bought in good faith” and these apartments were never even built. It has taken us nearly two years to get our money back going through the Court route. Why couldn’t we have had our money from the developer as soon as they knew they would not build. 😈
In my opinion/experience, the Courts should be monitored by the European Council. Many people are not getting justice(money returned) when they clearly have been swindled from their money. Also, as is our recent situation, in a second Court hearing, we were awarded the interest + legal fees by the Court. The Bank are disputing this and two months down the line, we have still not received this final payment. How can any “body” question the Court decision??? 😕 😕
Yesterday, I had a “desperate” phone call from a GH purchaser who was outside his lawyers office in Marbella, who had just been told that the bank had phoned his lawyer to say that they were NOT going to pay out on his Bank Guarantee (dated Sept 2006) ,even though he has legitimately claimed through his Lawyer and a Notary, breach of contract by the developers. He was also told that the developers were keeping his deposit!!!!!!!
We know from the Town Hall (confirmed by them to our lawyer) that they consider Green Hills is an illegal urbanization until such time as they, (TH) find a solution.
Why is this guy and others like him not getting justice when they have proved their case unreservedly? All the time it costs money, money, money.
- November 21, 2006 at 8:36 am #67449
Dont want to go to far of thread but one way is to open a word document right click mouse, you get the insert hyperlink box, you can then call the link what you want eg “my link”, at the bottom type the web page address, when finished cut and paste into you post. I am sure there are other ways, such as copying from favourites etc.
- November 21, 2006 at 11:56 am #67452
Look I think you are all falling for a political trick due to the municipal elections next year.
The media keep bombarding us that the town hall are going to demolish between 5.000 – 334 houses in Marbella area (where is the huge amount of money to do this coming from, huh ? ); they are but preparing the stage for the main actor of this drama.
The truth is that not one house is going to be demolished, perhaps some illegal hotel just to make a big splash in the media with some newspaper headline to frighten a bit the voters and act as an “example to those unscrupulous builders”, but never a dwelling. Because Mr. Paulino Plata, the main actor, in a fantastic mise en scène carefully devised by the Junta will appear to be the saviour of the city “negotiating” before the Junta de Andalucía, who happen to be of his same political party, with the so called “Principio de Buena fe” which will stop any demolishments of dwellings, at least in Marbella area. The people will cheer him and vote him thankfully next year as their saviour, because foreigners can vote in municipal elections.
Voilà, the political ploy worked out as planned. It’s a calculated political manoueuvre to propel Mr Plata to become Major and continue business as usual this time under the control of the ruling political party. All coastal cities are very juicy due to the ongoing urbanism and Marbella is the crown’s jewel.
All of this reminds me of that great film “wag the dog” starring de Niro and Dustin Hoffman. It’s all smoke and mirrors folks and you are all falling for it.
- November 21, 2006 at 12:03 pm #67453
Is there no end to your talents Drakan!!? What would we do without you to stop us falling into the abyss? :wink
- November 21, 2006 at 12:24 pm #67454
You’re our Jeanne D’Arc Claire. 😉
- November 21, 2006 at 12:49 pm #67455
And look what happened to HER!!!!! 😯
- November 21, 2006 at 12:54 pm #67456
That’s why I like remaining anonymous. 🙂
- November 21, 2006 at 12:59 pm #67457
- November 21, 2006 at 2:16 pm #67460
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