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  • #56513
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    I’ve just had 10 days of the worst flu I can remember in my life. I’m still feeling weird, but at least I feel better than I did.

    Needless to say I’ve been watching a lot of Spanish TV (I don’t have Sky). 60% of adverts, which anyone who watches Spanish TV knows go on FOR EVER, are for flu-related products, so I guess I’m not the only one with it. Anyone else in Spain had this flu, and did you find it particularly vicious?

    Mark

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    We have an outbreak of something here in California. I’ve been sick for a week. In SF, one high school closed do to so many students with the flu, which has been mostly an ‘intestinal’ experience.

    Google flu trends http://www.google.org/flutrends/ is a good place to see what’s going on.

    And I don’t know if you know the history behind the ‘Spanish Flu’ which is now referred to as the 1918 flu pandemic. It wasn’t any worse in Spain and it didn’t originate in Spain, but it became known as the Spanish flu because Spain was ‘neutral’ in WWI and had an ‘open press’. Other countries did allow newspapers to publish anything that could possibly erode morale during the war, so there was a bit of a blackout of flu news.

  • #107810
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    It was probably the Swine Flu, we are all going to get it unless vaccinated, it will be milder that the initial variant.

  • #107811
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    Yes, I suspect I’ve had something like Swine or Bird Flu. It was unlike any flu I can remember 😯

  • #107812
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    @garysfbcn wrote:

    And I don’t know if you know the history behind the ‘Spanish Flu’ which is now referred to as the 1918 flu pandemic. It wasn’t any worse in Spain and it didn’t originate in Spain, but it became known as the Spanish flu because Spain was ‘neutral’ in WWI and had an ‘open press’. Other countries did allow newspapers to publish anything that could possibly erode morale during the war, so there was a bit of a blackout of flu news.

    Spanish flu (H1N1) originated in the appalling conditions of the trenches of WW1 and was brought home to UK by the troops and spread to the French population. It is estimated the flu killed more people world wide than the actual war.
    The current standard flu vaccine, available over the counter at most pharmacists in Europe protects against H511 flu known as ‘bird flu’ as well as H1N1.
    It costs a few Euros and everyone should have one to help prevent a global pandemic. It’s irresponsible in the extreme to ignore it because it kills.

  • #107813
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    @mark wrote:

    I’ve just had 10 days of the worst flu I can remember in my life. I’m still feeling weird, but at least I feel better than I did.

    Needless to say I’ve been watching a lot of Spanish TV (I don’t have Sky). 60% of adverts, which anyone who watches Spanish TV knows go on FOR EVER, are for flu-related products, so I guess I’m not the only one with it. Anyone else in Spain had this flu, and did you find it particularly vicious?

    Mark

    Hi Mark, yeah, whole family has had it. Doing the rounds in the office, and my girls school.
    My girl ran a bit of a fever (39 degrees) one on friday and the other yesterday. Quite a bit of coughing at night and lots of ‘moco’.
    Myself had one day last week where i was a bit rough, but a frenadol or 2 dealt with it easy enough.
    Taking a while to shift to cough though.

  • #107814
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    @garysfbcn wrote:

    We have an outbreak of something here in California. I’ve been sick for a week. In SF, one high school closed do to so many students with the flu, which has been mostly an ‘intestinal’ experience.

    Google flu trends http://www.google.org/flutrends/ is a good place to see what’s going on.

    And I don’t know if you know the history behind the ‘Spanish Flu’ which is now referred to as the 1918 flu pandemic. It wasn’t any worse in Spain and it didn’t originate in Spain, but it became known as the Spanish flu because Spain was ‘neutral’ in WWI and had an ‘open press’. Other countries did allow newspapers to publish anything that could possibly erode morale during the war, so there was a bit of a blackout of flu news.

    Yes I had heard of this explanation. Only the Spanish press reported the flu so everyone assumed it “started” in Spain. It highlights a major problem with having a free press.

  • #107815
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    Yes I had heard of this explanation. Only the Spanish press reported the flu so everyone assumed it “started” in Spain. It highlights a major problem with having a free press.

    Just like today’s economy, for a while anyway, the early-on predicted collapse of Europe’s economies appeared to be blamed upon Spain. And the global flu epidemic that kill so many in 1918-19 is also Spain’s fault.

  • #107816
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    A couple of weeks ago in a hotel in Calpe Alicante, several elderly British tourists and some Spanish people working in the hotel suffered Legionnaires disease. Three of them have since died.
    It was only made public by the British national health authority and Saga tour company where some of them were treated on returning to UK.
    The Valencian Regional Health Authority hushed the outbreak up fearing panic in the population and were only forced into making a public statement once the British released the news.
    Now the Spanish national health minister has made a statement today severely censoring the health authority for not making the outbreak public and is expecting resignations.
    Old habits die hard in Spain.

  • #107817
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    @garysfbcn wrote:

    Yes I had heard of this explanation. Only the Spanish press reported the flu so everyone assumed it “started” in Spain. It highlights a major problem with having a free press.

    Just like today’s economy, for a while anyway, the early-on predicted collapse of Europe’s economies appeared to be blamed upon Spain. And the global flu epidemic that kill so many in 1918-19 is also Spain’s fault.

    Yes it seems a few of Spain’s critics overlooked the fact that up until the finiancial crisis started, Spain was pretty much the only eurozone country that had completely stuck to the economic requirements of eurozone membership. Just about every other country had broken the stability and growth pact in one way or another. So those who drew up the rules for the eurozone should not now be blaming Spain for damaging it.

  • #107818
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    @logan wrote:

    A couple of weeks ago in a hotel in Calpe Alicante, several elderly British tourists and some Spanish people working in the hotel suffered Legionnaires disease. Three of them have since died.
    It was only made public by the British national health authority and Saga tour company where some of them were treated on returning to UK.
    The Valencian Regional Health Authority hushed the outbreak up fearing panic in the population and were only forced into making a public statement once the British released the news.
    Now the Spanish national health minister has made a statement today severely censoring the health authority for not making the outbreak public and is expecting resignations.
    Old habits die hard in Spain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16865080

  • #107838
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    Hi Mark,

    Declared an epidemic in Asturias …… the local reporting ….. “La difusión de la gripe es epidémica en Asturias”

    So it looks as though its type A/H1N1 and already got a hold in a minimum of 6 Autonomas – Asturias, Aragón, Castilla-La Mancha, Madrid, País Vasco y La Rioja. National average is 204 cases per 100,000 head of population.

    Latest news from Asturias -> http://www.rtpa.es/asturias:La-tasa-de-afectados-por-gripe-en-Asturias-se-situa-en-199-casos-por-cada-100.000-habitantes-_111296752642.html

    Regards,

  • #107839
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    worth pointing out that the media do like to hype these things. just like the ‘arctic’ weather we are supposed to have had…. we had to cold nights on the Costa. not exactly ‘arctic’.

  • #107846
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    $$$$$$$$ for the pharmacos, let’s create panic and fear, it happened last flu season right, do we remember how many billions of dollars were spent in vaccines and never used and there was no mass pandemic dying???? let’s be more informed by neutral sources.

    how about enhancing your IMMUNE system for a change!!!!!!! it works!!!!!

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