‘Pay-to-legalise-your-property’ begins

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  • #53646
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  • #78729
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    That is unbelievable…if it were anywhere other than Spain! 😯 I cannot believe anyone would be so stupid as to give the money over. There are huge problems around some of the Lake Vinuela properties to do with the construction.

  • #78731
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    Not just the money…has the local council got the authority to legalise them! I thought most of this was in the hands of the junta.

    My hairdressers Father lives near there and has been fined 40,000 euros and he doesn’t have any money! Has been in the house 5 years or more and was advised by the builder (relative of the Mayor) that getting a house legal was just a formality and that is how things are “done” in Spain, Lawyer went along with that!!

  • #78734
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    You’ll have to leave bigger tips Katy! 😀

    Seriously though, that is dreadful for the gentleman concerned.

  • #78738
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    Claire wrote:
    That is unbelievable…if it were anywhere other than Spain! 😯 I cannot believe anyone would be so stupid as to give the money over. There are huge problems around some of the Lake Vinuela properties to do with the construction.

    Is there no end to the stupidity of foreigners in Spain. This letter seems to be on a par with the one sent out by the sons of former presidents of a banana republic in Africa, except instead of promising millions THEY WANT YOUR MONEY..

    The town halls have no power to legalise property this was the problem the Priors had, according to the town hall their property was legal according to the Junta it was not.

    For goodness everyone on this forum take note that many town halls are bankcrupt, lots of developers are bankcrupt they will think up devious ways to relieve people of even more money. PAY NOTHING, FORM AN ASSOCIATION OF OWNERS, PLAY THE SPANISH AT THEIR OWN GAME.
    Write to the local press exposing these scams,let them do something useful for once instead of writing about homes for abandoned dogs and crap restaurantes.

    I am so angry, the fraud carried out by mayors, developers, estate agents in the past is incredible and they are still at it. The lousy European Union is no where to be seen, the so called representatives of Her Majesty´s Government in Spain rabbit on the radio about registering with them if going to England for 10 days so they know where everyone is. Can´t they get off *rses and do something to help people, I expect they will come up with the effluent ” We are guests in Spain,must n’t rock the boat ” *OD THE BOAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED HARD ALL THEIR LIVES AND ARE NOW BEING ROBBED OF THEIR LIFE SAVINGS

  • #78748
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    I suppose the alternative is to walk down your local Gran Via and find a suitably fat Black Hummer bearing Lithuanian number plates and poke the 6000 euro´s through the slightly open drivers window!

    Sorry for my flipancy, but this story is, in reality, very dismal indeed.

  • #78754
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    Due to time constraints I can’t afford to do personal consultations. However, last year, I made an exception for a friend of a friend who had fallen in love with a new project in a dead end town in Andalucia that was being hyped by a mid-sized agent. I spent an hour on the phone advising this couple against buying on this project. They ignored my advice and went ahead and bought anyway. It is now turning into a nightmare for them, and unfortunately, they can’t say they weren’t warned. When people are pursuing a dream, there can be a lot of resistance to information that challenges the dream. People do silly things, and in this business, silly things can be very expensive.

    Mark

  • #78758
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    Yes ,the shoot the messenger virus 🙂

  • #78760
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    135yearswaiting – a great post and my sentiments exactly in all you have said. Nice to see a ‘strong’ post aimed in the right direction for a change.

    I take heart in reading the Brits and Germans are forming a protest group, and can only hope that Francisco González the Town Hall spokesman has got it wrong that some people have already paid. Am sure the Vera case has got everyone’s indignation boiled up nicely so will be intesting to watch the outcome of this group’s actions.

    It really takes the biscuit when the very source of most of all the corruption deems it right to levy a charge on purchasers to put it all right.
    And as Katy rightly questions, they don’t even have the power to 100% legalise the properties anyway.

    Let’s hope the German/Brit alliance proves a match for this new Spanish con-trick.

  • #78762
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    This morning the plot thickens.

    The Socialist Mayor of La Vinuela, Juan Millán, has denied that he ever required a tax to be paid to regularise the homes and has blamed a third party for ‘possible fraud’ in the matter. However some owners claim that they have already made the payment in municipal offices.
    The Junta is opening an investigation into the whole affair.

    Another corrupt mess?

    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_15113.shtml

  • #78766
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    Interesting read

    http://www.soha.es

    Notice that most of the owners are Brits and German!

  • #78944
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    Sounds like a typically Spanish back hander, just under the guise of a tax!! Have these people no shame?

    Obviously, most people are desperate to have a legal house and so have shelled out.

    It sounds very much like this Aloha Espana bunch who are peddling a Certificate of Legality for €280!

    It is just more ways for the Spanish to wring money out of hapless Brits. The Spanish sure know how to press the Brit’s insecurity button.

  • #80044
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    Remember this little ‘gem’ of a scam in La Vinuela?
    Well it looks like this is one mayor who may get his commeuppance. I wonder whether the Brits who paid will get their money back.

    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_15667.shtml

  • #80248
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    Are there any honest mayors and town halls in Andalucia and the Costa Blanca areas? It seems everyone is caught dipping their hands in the lucrative tills, why doesn´t the negligent and suspect Spanish Gov´t do something genuine to stop the rot, are they corrupt too?

  • #80250
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    Because of greed! money is the root of all evil and corruption”!!
    These people may not have started out being corrupt but you will probably find a couple of hundred euros here and here to hurry things along soon turns into thousands and millions along the way and so these people become greedy and corrupt!!and yes!..I think they are in every department.

  • #80253
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    And unbelievably these Mayors are still trying to hold on to their little ‘gold mine’ of brown envelopes by objecting to a new plan to help halt corruption.

    13 Mayors across Málaga province have voiced objections to the Junta’s new POT territorial plan.
    The plan is designed to restrict and control development across the region from now until the year 2018. The Mayors consider the plan would restrict the development of their municipalities too greatly and invade their responsibilities.
    The Junta contends the restrictions are needed.

    The objections are led by the PP Mayor of Alhaurín de la Torre, Joaquín Villanova, who himself has already been charged with corruption and perversion of the course of justice.

    Other challenges have been placed by Mayors of Benalmádena and Torremolinos on the coast, Alhaurín el Grande, Cártama, Pizarra, Álora and Coin in the Guadalhorce valley.
    Smaller villages in the Montes de Málaga area have also voiced objections as in the cases of Casabermeja, Almogía and Totalán as well as Rincón de la Victoria.

    These Mayors consider the new POT takes over areas which are their own responsibility. 🙁
    But surely that is the whole idea. 🙄
    If this new plan is enforced and the local Mayors’ hands consequently tied, just maybe a halt will be put on the slow destruction of this part of Spain.
    But what’s the betting it will still go on.

  • #84240
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    Hi

    Does anyone have any current news relating to this problem at La Vinuela ?
    The web site is still up and running but there is nothing new on it since last March.

    Ditter

  • #84477
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    Hi

    Does anyone have any current news relating to this problem at La Vinuela ?
    The web site is still up and running but there is nothing new on it since last March.

    Ditter

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