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  • #57087
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    Has this died a death as i see that there are plans for one near the ebbsfleet international railstation.
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/october/8/paramount_park.aspx

  • #112642
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    Is there anymore chance of this coming off than the one in Murcia?

  • #112643
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    who knows but if it gets planning here at least they won’t knock it down afterwards

  • #112644
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  • #112646
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    Well the Kent site is being discussed on UK news so I think more chance of it happening than some of the similar projects in Spain 😉

  • #112673
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    @angie wrote:

    Well the Kent site is being discussed on UK news so I think more chance of it happening than some of the similar projects in Spain 😉

    Really?

    I tell you what, if either HS2 or Boris Island gets built in our lifetimes, I’ll buy you and your partner a meal in central London (or Madrid). The Spanish may be guilty of over-optimistic planning, but once commited they have a good track record of building the things. Can you imagine the UK building a high speed rail line as long as Madrid-Barcelona or the one down to Malaga? They’re going to struggle to get the one built to Birmingham.

  • #112676
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    Marcus, do you actually have a job, you are on the forums day in day out 😆

  • #112683
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    Nessy, you’re losing the plot now, I never mentioned HS2 nor Boris Island, I thank you! 😆 Relax, chill out, have a glass of cold white wine, don’t get so stewed up. Spain has a lot to offer 😛

    However, it the theme park gets built in North Kent, I’ll take the meal in Madrid, flights and hotel included. for a weekend of extravaganza if that’s fine by you, for me and my chosen partner 😉

  • #112684
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    What is the latest on Paramount Murcia ❓ Wasn’t construction supposed to begining “in earnest” this month 😕

  • #112687
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    It seems that although the agreement has been signed the funds are not yet available to start work, http://www.murciatoday.com/project-presented-to-build-paramount-park-complex-in-london_13311-a.html

  • #112689
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    @igurisu wrote:

    It seems that although the agreement has been signed the funds are not yet available to start work, http://www.murciatoday.com/project-presented-to-build-paramount-park-complex-in-london_13311-a.html

    Paramount are playing a dangerous game if these projects turn out to be scams – more so if they jettison the Murcia deal and concentrate on the Thames Estuary deal. The site, between Gravesend and Dartford, is one of the least salubrious parts in the UK – there’s a reason why nothing is currently there, it’s a dump and with poor road communications. But we’ll see – if they can transform that area, at least they’ll be close to the large population of London.

    Edit: Just realised – at least it’ll be close to the airport when Boris Island gets built! (we know that’ll never happen)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214560/Paramount-Pictures-open-huge-2bn-theme-park-near-London-rival-Disneyland-Paris-create-27-000-jobs.html?ITO=socialnet-twitter-mailonline

  • #112690
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    I think Paramount are playing the easy game DBM, they have nothing to lose. Whether its in the UK or Spain, from what I can gather they are only contributing their name/brand/licence. I may have it wrong but it seems to me the funding is put up by government/local authority and outside investors. If that’s the case then they can speculate or discuss about any number of theme parks. The only risk would be their reputation and credibility.

  • #112692
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    Their reputation is already down toilet. How many of these sort of projects are they trying to do? Didn’t work out to well in Benidorm did it?

    They seem to target areas with bad economies to get tax funds available.

  • #112694
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    Because the North Kent site is a scruffy area, I think it would be the ideal site to develop for theme park or property.

    It’s so close to London and the huge population of the South East generally, no distance from the M25 etc so if some decent roads and a rail link were part of the scheme I think it would generate lots of business, however I doubt I would ever go, probably be too crowded 🙄

  • #112711
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    @dbmarcos99 wrote:

    I tell you what, if either HS2 or Boris Island gets built in our lifetimes, I’ll buy you and your partner a meal in central London (or Madrid).

    You’d better start saving up then. One or the other will certainly start happen within the next decade, probably HS2 but possibly both.

    The SE of the UK is critically short of runway capacity. To the extent that it is damaging the economy. It also needs a major hub airport which is currently Heathrow. The only option the government, of whatever party, has is either to build a new hub such as Boris island or to free up enough slots at the existing hub to allow for expansion. If HS2 is built past Brum it will free up slots at LHR which are currently being used by domestic flights.

    I’ll readily admit that the UK is lousy at long term infrastructure but I can’t see this issue being ducked any longer.

  • #112713
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    @brianc_li wrote:

    @dbmarcos99 wrote:
    I tell you what, if either HS2 or Boris Island gets built in our lifetimes, I’ll buy you and your partner a meal in central London (or Madrid).

    You’d better start saving up then. One or the other will certainly start happen within the next decade, probably HS2 but possibly both.

    The SE of the UK is critically short of runway capacity. To the extent that it is damaging the economy. It also needs a major hub airport which is currently Heathrow. The only option the government, of whatever party, has is either to build a new hub such as Boris island or to free up enough slots at the existing hub to allow for expansion. If HS2 is built past Brum it will free up slots at LHR which are currently being used by domestic flights.

    I’ll readily admit that the UK is lousy at long term infrastructure but I can’t see this issue being ducked any longer.

    HS2 will not be running before about 2030 (and there are already doubts about its proposed route – the Nimbys are fighting hard against this one)
    Boris Island – not a chance. It’ll split the Conservative party, and Labour would never dare to commit so much money to that project – their reputation for debt-driven expenditure is already a big election burden.
    As for the proposed Paramount site – anyone who has driven near the Dartford crossing in working hours will tell you the area is over-congested already. In order for such a park to be successful there needs to be several new roads (and possibly a new river crossing) to allow most of the customers to approach the park. Despite what is being said, most of the families going to the theme park will want to drive there, not take the train.
    Because of the transport infrastructure that would need to be built (and you can be sure Paramount won’t pay for that), I don’t see this happening. A shame really, it would make good use of an area that isn’t much use for anything else. Well, an airport may be built there too.. 😉

  • #112714
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    I think most will want to take the train, the same as many go to Disney Europe by train. Probably the only winners will be Paramount 😆 It is stated that BBC and ITV backs the project.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/october/8/paramount_park.aspx

  • #112715
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    @katy wrote:

    I think most will want to take the train, the same as many go to Disney Europe by train. Probably the only winners will be Paramount 😆 It is stated that BBC and ITV backs the project.

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2012/october/8/paramount_park.aspx

    I’d be very interested to see the breakdown of numbers of Brits who go to existing theme parks in the UK – Thorpe Park or Centre Parcs or Alton Towers. Probably an extremely low proportion. Rail fares nowadays are just too high to justify travelling as a family.

  • #112732
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    If you knew the dartford area you would know about the fast track bus system that runs from dartford to gravesend via bluewater it goes straight past the site and has its own lanes abit like the olympic buses did park and ride will ferry people in quickly and easily.i expect a few hotels so people can stay onsite

  • #113592
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    I read today that the Isla Mágica theme park in Seville has to be sold or closed. The new owners La Caixa are not prepared to pour anymore money down this particular hole. A theme park close to a big city like Seville that doesn’t work. Just sayin’…….
    http://www.inmodiario.com/179/15658/magica-venta-cierre.html

  • #113708
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    And if it can’t work in that location then it says it all…wonderful spot.

    Whats happening with Paramount Murcia anyway…thought they were making a start this autumn 🙄

  • #191118
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    Well a few years on, and I’m feeling even safer in my assertion. We won’t see Boris Island or HS2 built in our lifetimes.

    Looking unlikely that Paramount Murcia will amount to much.  And to seal the lack of progress everywhere, it appears the planning application itself has been delayed for the Kent project for another year

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-36442445

  • #191120
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    Paramount Murcia is never going to happen. Anyone who said otherwise had an agenda.

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