Open Letter to David Lidington: Update

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  • #56245
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    Anonymous
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    FYI – the first part of the petition is on its way.

    It was sent to the Rt Hon David Lidington’s Private Secretary by registered post this afternoon (Friday) and is guaranteed to arrive before 1pm on Monday. I alerted the FCO that it was being sent so they are expecting it. It contains 1145 signatures on 108 pages and shows names, email addresses and all comments that were made.

    The petition is still open for signing. More signatures will be sent to DL once we know the date of any further Road Shows in the UK. Let’s try to keep the ball rolling.

    Thank you everyone.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-the-spanish-property-roadshow-open-letter-to-davi.html

  • #105320
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    Open Letter to David Lidington: latest

    First, I want to say a big thank you to those who have supported my Open Letter to David Lidington. Through your help I was able to send the letter to him carrying the first batch of 1145 signatures. By leaving the petition open it has attracted a further 100 signatures to be sent.

    The Road Show was promised back again in the UK this month but as yet there is no news of where or when. However, I will send this next batch of signatures on to David Lidington in this coming week as a reminder that we want him to speak to his Spanish counterparts on our behalf. He must not forget us.

    In my accompanying letter sent with the early first batch I requested a face-to-face meeting with him so that a group of us could expound on problems we have all been facing in one way or another. I secured a meeting with Alan Duncan, my own MP, who has agreed to support me in this request. I wait to hear.

    An appeal to sellers

    Next, I would like to add some reassurance to those Forum readers who are unhappy with petitions such as this. Underlying all the petitions is a desire to raise trust in the Spanish legal and judicial systems which underpin all property transactions, whether buying or selling. At present, there is none.

    Property law in Spain (Ley 57/1968) is very clear and very sound. What has let it down is the implementation of that law. Until the law is properly enforced we will continue having to put up with a culture of lies and deceit, provocation and fraud, and the brown-envelope brigade will prevail. This has to stop for the sake of everyone: the British, the Spanish, the buyers and the sellers – we are all in it together.

    The petition to David Lidington asks for two strategies to be put forward as ways of progressing the build up of trust.

    1. Where Bank Guarantees have not been issued, or not been honoured, banks and other financial institutions should be made to reimburse all deposits paid, with the addition of legal interest, in accordance with LEY 57/68. Cases where this has not happened should never have to come to court at all. A guarantee is a guarantee – there should be no equivocation.
    2. Fast-track courts dealing only with property issues should be set up to deal quickly with the huge backlog of cases which have caused so much stress and heartache to thousands (yes, thousands) of people left without buildings, without money and/or without hope of justice ever being achieved.

    Keith Rule, author of http://www.bankguaranteesinspain.com/ has laid out very clearly in his most recent posting on http://www.eyeonspain.com/forums/posts-long-13144.aspx why many of the statistics behind our losses are hidden.

    The Law should be made the rule – no ifs, no buts. This is the 21st.C and Spain must grow into it whether brought kicking and screaming through pressure from the European Parliament or through its own Government seeing sense and imposing fines and other sanctions on wrongdoers.

    So sellers, please add your voice to the petition, too. Tell David Lidington that you are finding it difficult or well nigh impossible to sell in this climate of mistrust. Let him know of your experiences and how you feel. Please don’t blame the messenger (the petition) – identify the root causes of the problem and lay them at the feet of those to whom they belong. Too much damage has been done over this past decade. The Spanish Government must act if it is ever to regain our confidence.

    This petition will close once we know the dates of the second round of Road Shows. Please make sure your name is on it.

    And thank you again for your support.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-the-spanish-property-roadshow-open-letter-to-davi.html

  • #105322
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    katy
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    Some good points there Roots 🙂

    I have never bought off-plan but if I had I would have thought a “bank guarantee” would have meant that if for any reason the property wasn’t completed or illegal I would have expected to have received my money back on presentation. They should have written them on toilet paper!

  • #105326
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    @katy wrote:

    Some good points there Roots 🙂

    I have never bought off-plan but if I had I would have thought a “bank guarantee” would have meant that if for any reason the property wasn’t completed or illegal I would have expected to have received my money back on presentation. They should have written them on toilet paper!

    Yeah and these so called guarantees just lined the pockets of the bankers, builders and the state. Basicly not worth the paper it was printed on.

  • #105327
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    katy
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    Someone I know was given a guarantee from a sleazy off-shore bank. Of course it turned out not to be valid. Don’t know what their Lawyer was doing to let it through.

  • #105355
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    Well, it’s 8 July today and still no news of when the Spanish Property Roadshow is returning to the UK. Could it be that the Spanish Ministers have changed their minds??? No, it’s just that they’re taking their time. And isn’t it holidays now? July and August rings bells with me.

    There are currently 1268 signatures on the petition and it is still OPEN.

    Please make your voice heard.

    Add your name and comments (anonymously if you wish) – they are very telling.

    roots

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-the-spanish-property-roadshow-open-letter-to-davi.html

  • #105466
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    I have now received a letter from David Lidington in response to the petition I sent to him on 2 June with 1145 signatures attached. As many of you wrote comments he did respond with some sympathy and told of the efforts that his department have made so far in respect of resources allocated and diplomatic moves made. We are aware of much of this as the letter is basically a standard letter which is sent out to all those who write to him.

    In addition, when I sent the petition to Mr. Lidington I also sent a personal letter requesting a meeting with him to discuss the particular issues cited at the end of the open petition letter. This has produced a result.

    Mr. Lidington has agreed to a meeting.

    It will take place in early September, sometime between the end of the summer recess of parliament and the autumn conference season. It will be a closed meeting with a very small group of five and will be of short duration: 45 minutes only is to be allotted.

    This means that the meeting will be very tightly focussed. I will be preparing a ‘frame of reference’ document to send to him in advance and I hope that this will result in a thoughtful and productive discussion.

    I will keep you updated.

    roots

  • #105467
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    Anonymous
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    Progress, snail pace. keep at at roots we all with you & Suzanne.

  • #105468
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    Anonymous
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    Thanks, Shakeel. Will do!

    roots

  • #105469
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    Anonymous
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    I am sure that you will not let others hijack the issues !!!!!!!!!!

  • #105472
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    DrRobert
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    Roots,

    Well done! Go well prepared and let us know how you get on!

  • #105473
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    Anonymous
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    Great result so far Roots. 😀 Perseverance usually pays off!

  • #105626
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    1339 signatures to date
    Please keep them coming

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-the-spanish-property-roadshow-open-letter-to-davi.html

    Thanks for all the encouragement

  • #106043
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    Anonymous
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    A total of over 1400 signatures and comments were submitted to David Lidington, our Minister for Europe, the last batch contained in the Information File put together for him (see my post re the Meeting held in his office).

    Good job everybody!

    roots

  • #105843
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    Anonymous
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    A total of over 1400 signatures and comments were submitted to David Lidington, our Minister for Europe, the last batch contained in the Information File put together for him (see my post re the Meeting held in his office).

    Good job everybody!

    roots

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