Moving to Spain and Buying an Existing Business

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    Have just joined and am very grateful for all the information!

    We are looking at moving to Spain but will need to work, so we thought it may be best to buy a business that included a house. One we have looked at is a boarding kennel for dogs and a few cats. We both love animals – have two Labs who would come with us – which would make it easier.

    My questions are more to do with regulations and minimizing purchase risk.

    The existing owners of the kennel has “verbal” license approval from the authorities but have not received the physical or paper license yet. The Ministry of Agriculture (apologies if my wording is not precise as I am getting used to the terminology) has already started their annual visits to the kennels and have found nothing amiss. My understanding is that the authorities are debating whether the property should be zoned “agricultural” or if it should remain “rustico”. The difference I gather is that an agricultural designation will require a €2,000 purchase of a share in irrigation that would, however, provide for large quantities of water at very low cost.

    1. Is it safe to rely on the authorities to actually issue the physical license considering the verbal approvals and the fact that the kennel has been operating for 2+ years? Does it mean anything that the Ministry of Agriculture has already been around and inspected the operation without any issues having been raised?
    2. Would such a license have been issued to the owners personally or does it attach to the property given that is where the kennel is located?
    3. Would we have to register as a “business” in addition to this licence or is the latter a comprehensive document?

    I have been trying to find out on line how well kennels do in Spain but without much success. Would anyone have any input as to the market, specifically if possible, in Almeria? The operation has 14 dog (was 10 but 4 were added last December) kennels and 3 for cats.

    How reliable are real estate agents sites for obtaining an idea of property values? I have read all sorts of stuff on agents and it is almost like dealing with information from the wild west, certainly to the uninitiated!

    Am really looking forward to hearing back!

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    @amp51 wrote:

    Have just joined and am very grateful for all the information!

    We are looking at moving to Spain but will need to work, so we thought it may be best to buy a business that included a house. One we have looked at is a boarding kennel for dogs and a few cats. We both love animals – have two Labs who would come with us – which would make it easier.

    My questions are more to do with regulations and minimizing purchase risk.

    The existing owners of the kennel has “verbal” license approval from the authorities but have not received the physical or paper license yet. The Ministry of Agriculture (apologies if my wording is not precise as I am getting used to the terminology) has already started their annual visits to the kennels and have found nothing amiss. My understanding is that the authorities are debating whether the property should be zoned “agricultural” or if it should remain “rustico”. The difference I gather is that an agricultural designation will require a €2,000 purchase of a share in irrigation that would, however, provide for large quantities of water at very low cost.

    1. Is it safe to rely on the authorities to actually issue the physical license considering the verbal approvals and the fact that the kennel has been operating for 2+ years? Does it mean anything that the Ministry of Agriculture has already been around and inspected the operation without any issues having been raised?
    2. Would such a license have been issued to the owners personally or does it attach to the property given that is where the kennel is located?
    3. Would we have to register as a “business” in addition to this licence or is the latter a comprehensive document?

    I have been trying to find out on line how well kennels do in Spain but without much success. Would anyone have any input as to the market, specifically if possible, in Almeria? The operation has 14 dog (was 10 but 4 were added last December) kennels and 3 for cats.

    How reliable are real estate agents sites for obtaining an idea of property values? I have read all sorts of stuff on agents and it is almost like dealing with information from the wild west, certainly to the uninitiated!

    Am really looking forward to hearing back!

    I have no idea of how profitable a kennel might be but you should know that spaniards do not treat their dogs/cats the same way someone from example England does so I doubt they are willing to spend as much money on their pets as for example some other nationalities do. Dogs for example are often sold on the sunday markets sitting in small cages without any veterinary checks for around 100-300 euros.

    Try and contact other kennels in other areas and ask them how everything works.

    Good luck! It’s always interesting to hear about things like this.

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  • #105448
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    “information from the wild west “
    Wild, West it is indeed. Spain is not a Country to do business. I note that you have not even mentioned the taxation yet.

    It seams that you trying to combining business with pleasure. In most circumstances it does not work exceptions if you are opening a brothel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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