Marbella Is Back On The Map

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    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_11578.shtml

    In part:
    ‘The Mayor spoke of ‘individual specialised treatment’ for the 18,000 homes which the new PGOU proposes to legalise. It leaves out of that process, however, 752 properties and two hotels.’

  • #73656
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    According to surinenglish the buildings in question comprise of three apartment blocks completely built and with some apartments already sold, another two also finished but unoccupied, five apartment blocks on which building work has been stopped……………………….

  • #73657
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    Hello Dorothy – is this from the latest edition of Sur ❓

    I am very surprised to hear today that the whole of La Reserva has been ‘approved’ ❗ ❗ & wait for details of exactly where these apartments are that are not.

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    Thanks Dorothy

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    @Suzanne wrote:

    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_11578.shtml

    In part:
    ‘The Mayor spoke of ‘individual specialised treatment’ for the 18,000 homes which the new PGOU proposes to legalise. It leaves out of that process, however, 752 properties and two hotels.’

    Quite honestly they should be demolishing rather than making developments legal. I would approach this problem from the perspective of a disaster in all aspects; environmentally, financially, socially, economically. I would think how do we make a society which is sustainable and if that means demolition and compensation I would do it.

    They’re rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

  • #73696
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    It does seem that many developers who have knowingly built illegal properties, together with their corrupt lawyers who enabled & encouraged this, are rubbing their hands together with glee right now. For me, this doesn’t instil any confidence in the Spanish property market, as merely issuing licences does not deal with the stresses & strains many innocent purchasers of these properties have borne for years.

    There also seems little action by the authorities that severely warns against this happening again, if most of these properties remain standing. They are dealing with some of the symptoms but not the real problem IMO.

    Many, no doubt, will be happy to have a legalised property to call their own, but there are still many with impending court cases who will continue to fight for their Rights. It would be interesting to know the ratio between these two groups. Maybe these developers who are being taken to court believe that the courts will instruct people to complete if the Licences have since been issued. I just hope that the Judges acknowledge the fact that these developers did not meet their obligations in many thousands of Contracts to come up with the goods at the right time – legally.

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    Unfortunately demolition of 18,000 + properties would create rather the opposite to an environmental approach. It would look like a war zone and dust and pollution would cloud the atmosphere for a long time. Definite health hazard.
    However suddenly making properties legal ,without compensation, for those like Suzanne who have also had the added expense and trauma of, still ongoing, court cases is far from ideal as well.
    I would like to think that for those in Suzanne’s situation to seek redress on this issue would be a future option….but think the attitude might well be “your are legal now…so tough…… “

  • #73705
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    Who will demolish them. The developers will not incur the cost of demolishing them and they will just be an eye soar.

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    @shakeel wrote:

    Who will demolish them. The developers will not incur the cost of demolishing them and they will just be an eye soar.

    I agree. Do nothing and in 10 years time you will have developments to rival Eastern European housing blocks built under the communist regimes. Very attractive.

    I’d expect the government to take charge. They have to do something to restore credibility in the Spanish property market. At the same time develop a system that is trustworthy and that investors can have faith in.

    How to pay? That will be difficult. However, when the economy goes down the pan, maybe the government can approach the IMF with a sustainable plan which they can show will eventually bring economic benefits to the country and in the meantime put all the unemployed builders back to work.

    However, I think all parties concerned will do nothing but tinker at the edges, like declaring some illegal properties legal

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    They do have developments to rival Eastern europe! Take a look at the back of Calahonda and La Cala and still some just started. I agree with what you say, I don’t think much will be demolished, ones built on green belt should go. I don’t really see a problem with Banana Beach, although it is on the beach it is on the main road and is surrounded by an Industrial estate.

  • #73719
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    Does anyone know why properties built on greenbelt land don’t appear to be as ‘forbidden’ as building on rustic land ❓ I ask this, as it seems clearer that greenbelt land properties may be legalised – but rustic land ones not so easy 🙄

  • #73721
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    Suzanne: I beleive its fashionable to care for anything which has a word green attached to it. Lucky the green giant

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    Katy
    It would be interesting to know how many of those apartments at La Cala and Calahonda have been sold.

  • #73731
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    I would too 😕 I drove up the road where the market is and for miles there are just blocks and blocks, some of them overlooking a brick factory too! I did notice that many blocks seem empty and others almost empty, the latter having many for sale/rent signs up. If they can’t rent now the peak month of the season it shows the massive over supply. Just before reaching the Coín road we used to go for walks through the Advocado plantations…now nearly all gone 😥

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    Spanish Minister announces massive leap forward for housing and young people.
    The Prime Minister has announced that the government will give ‘a massive leap forward’ to bring housing within reach of young people and to help them to set up home on their own.

    He said it will take place before the end of the current legislature, with indications from the Socialist Party that it could be this autumn and will affect property rentals……………………
    He gave no more details on the new housing policy, but said it would benefit a great number of young people…..
    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/a … 1614.shtml

    My imagination may be running away with me here, but wonder whether many of the empty, currently ‘illegal’ properties that people have refused to complete on, will be used for this purpose? This may go towards some kind of ‘punishment’ for the developers involved, from the Government ❓

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    New PGOU will be on public display in the congress centre from Monday 6 August.

    ‘Marbella’s new PGOU (Plan General de Ordenación Urbano – town development plan) will be on public display as from next Monday (August 6th). The document was initially passed by the new council on July 19th and this agreement appeared in the BOP (provincial official journal) last Monday, however the complication of finding a suitable place in which the document can be consulted by the local people has delayed its exhibition.
    In the end the Town Hall has provided three locations: the congress centre and the municipal offices in San Pedro Alcántara and Las Chapas. However, at the congress centre only, planning experts will be available to answer residents’ queries. The plan will be on public display for two months during which time any objections can be handed in to the local authority.

    Due to the great public interest in Marbella’s new planning regulations the authorities expect an avalanche of interested residents from Monday at the three venues. ‘ SurinEnglish

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    It seems that where the new PGOU plan is allowing legalising certain developments of questionable legal status, the residents will still be ‘punished’ by planning future roads willy-nilly regardless of how it will effect a development, even if it includes making a security gate ‘redundant’.

    For those involved in Reserva de Marbella (RDM), found this today on another forum that may be of interest re. the new PGOU, posted by a member ‘pacheran’:

    “PGOU on display at the congess ( where from 10am until 2pm there are planning experts on hand to answer quires) in marbella and municipal offices san pedro and las chapas for the las chapas exibition take next turning after elviria and folow road around to the left you will see a building on your right with several flags outside the exibition is in there.
    There are several maps each concentrating on different aspects of the plan. for example one shows present and future transport links our nearest rail station will be on the north side of the 340 about 500 or so meters east of cobopino junction.
    Also proposed new road will enter rdm from the east running across the valley infront of manzana 4 and up to roundaboud in front of manzana 3 a proposed new road will also go from roundabout at nw corner of rdm and proceed nw through what is now that broken fence/path in that corner. There are lots of proposed new roads in the area but this will particularly effect us (if it goes ahead of course) if it does though, the security gate will be redundant.

    I only got to see the plan las chapas and it was all in spanish, though our development as far as I could tell is designated urban – private manzana. The green area in front of (south of) m4 is green space ,but urbanizable meaning that should the growth of the town warrent it , it could be built on. though from the plan there seems to be stacks of designated urban land that is yet to be developed”.

    With thanks to ‘pacheran’ for the information.

  • #73934
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    Does anyone know how long plan is to be displayed for ??
    I am not out until Oct and would like to know if Los Lagos is included in plans and if there are any potential roads which may cuase problems

  • #73937
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    Two months, Karen

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