La Cala, Los Arqueros or Sotogrande?

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  • #55287
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    We are a family of 3 (soon 4!) based in London who are considering buying a 2-3 bed apartment or townhouse either on an established golf development or within 10-20 minutes drive of one. We will be using it for long weekends, some holidaying and also letting friends and relatives use it when we are not there ourselves.

    I am planning to go and visit one or two of them in the next few months but it would be nice to hear in advance if anyone can share experiences from one or more of the above and could elaborate a little about the pros and cons and the different ‘feel’ about them and the surrounding areas? We obviously enjoy golf but equally important is good access to beaches (15-20 min drive), restaurants, towns, etc.

    Also please feel free to suggest other resorts or areas we may not have considered within an hour from Malaga!

    Many thanks!

  • #94998
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    I’m sure other will give opinions on their choices but..

    Sotogrande is over an hour from the aiport.
    And I am willing to bet every town west of malaga is within 20 minutes of a golf course.

  • #94999
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    Thanks Fuengi,

    Yes you are right, according to both my sat nav and google sotogrande golf is 1h 9 minutes, but I’m generous and call that one hour! 🙂

    Specific comments on the 3 resorts in question much appreciated; thanks!

  • #95000
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    @FFM wrote:

    We are a family of 3 (soon 4!) based in London who are considering buying a 2-3 bed apartment or townhouse either on an established golf development or within 10-20 minutes drive of one. We will be using it for long weekends, some holidaying and also letting friends and relatives use it when we are not there ourselves.

    I am planning to go and visit one or two of them in the next few months but it would be nice to hear in advance if anyone can share experiences from one or more of the above and could elaborate a little about the pros and cons and the different ‘feel’ about them and the surrounding areas? We obviously enjoy golf but equally important is good access to beaches (15-20 min drive), restaurants, towns, etc.

    Also please feel free to suggest other resorts or areas we may not have considered within an hour from Malaga!

    Many thanks!

    Go rent and then decide. Prices are falling as we speak, there is no hurry, you have at least 2 years before the bottom.

  • #95001
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    Firstly I would like to say that it is possible to play good golf without living directly on a golf course. Most of them are over-developed anyway. Just my opinion but Los Arqueros is a bad location, nothing around but construction and if you want to leave the place the roads to any life are horrendous, especially in summer. Sotogrande is a no for the reasons above and is overbuilt. La Cala would be my choice…in certain locations. The “La Cala” on the wrong side of the road is awful, bloque after bloque of third world apartments and no character. The other side , the “real” La Cala is fine. Great for families and no need to leave the place.

  • #95002
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    i’d say check it out yourself; Los arqueros is on the ronda road (ten minutes to the fab puerto banus) totally built out ie no empty plots and surrounded by posh areas; madroñal, zagaleta to name but a few – sotogrande is dead; la cala full of cheap chavs downing shots


  • #95003
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    Thank you for all your comments! Yes, renting a couple of times first is probably the soundest thing to do. Buying a non-golf development property is certainly also an option; as you said you can still be very close to the courses. The attractiveness of the golf dev’t alternative, apart from being right next to the courses, would be that you have other facilities on site for both non golfers and the children, but I guess that is the case for many other options as well. In my experience the clientele at a golf dev’t is a litte less boozy party people than in some other areas, but perhaps I’m wrong here! I base this on non-Spanish experiences.

    Renting and driving around to check out a few different types of alternatives is probably the way to go. It is easy to get carried away!

  • #95004
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    In theory 10 mins to Banus but 30 mins or more in summer, long way to the beaches too. Agree about the chavs though but Banus is full of them too…and eurotrash. We used to live close to Los Naranjos golf and had the same problem getting to the shops and restaurants in summer, just popping to the supermarket for a few items was a traffic nightmare. Have never regretted moving east of Marbella.

    If I were really wanting to live in a golf course development I would choose Elviria hills, only has a 9 hole course but lots of facilities and they have just reduced the price to 25 euro even if you play all day. know a lot of owners there and they are all really nice people. Minutes to the best beaches, shops and restaurants, walking distance wanting to golf range.

    If you are wanting to rent, golfing groups don’t want to stay on out of the way courses, they like to be near nightlife and play a different course every day.

  • #95005
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    Hi,

    When we were buying four years ago, my husband who is a golfer wanted to buy on a golf course, but I wanted to be near the beach. Having done the research back then, rental wise it is better to be near beaches, shops etc. Also what decided were we bought was that it wasn’t going to be like a ghost town during some parts of the year. There are several golf courses 10 minutes from where we are and what a selection. Golf in spain is not cheap. I bought on costa blanca because 4 years ago everything on the costa del sol seemed to be too expensive. Also the apartment is between two airports, one is 25 minutes, the other is 45 minutes.

    Good luck with your decision.

  • #95006
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    Thanks a lot Katy and Angela for taking the time!

    Katy, east of Marbella is certainly an option as well. Relatives of my wife have a house in Nerja and they seem very happy there. THey are a bit older though. We have not visited yet, so no first hand impressions. Looks nice though.

    I’m slowly drifting towards finding the nicest, family friendly non-golfing community; like you say good golf is available more or less everywhere within a 20 minutes drive. We probably wouldn’t rent it out so at least that’s one thing less to take into account…!

    Angela, thanks for your comments. As mentioned above we’re not planning to rent out and we are focussing on Costa del Sol for climate reasons. We are mainly going to use it in the period Sep-May and in the winter months and Costa Blanca seems a little wetter and chillier?

  • #95007
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    flosmichael wrote:
    FFM wrote:
    We are a family of 3 (soon 4!) based in London who are considering buying a 2-3 bed apartment or townhouse either on an established golf development or within 10-20 minutes drive of one. We will be using it for long weekends, some holidaying and also letting friends and relatives use it when we are not there ourselves.

    I am planning to go and visit one or two of them in the next few months but it would be nice to hear in advance if anyone can share experiences from one or more of the above and could elaborate a little about the pros and cons and the different ‘feel’ about them and the surrounding areas? We obviously enjoy golf but equally important is good access to beaches (15-20 min drive), restaurants, towns, etc.

    Also please feel free to suggest other resorts or areas we may not have considered within an hour from Malaga!

    Many thanks!

    Go rent and then decide. Prices are falling as we speak, there is no hurry, you have at least 2 years before the bottom.

    Very good advice, rent first, there are so many properties for sale , plenty of desperate sellers, if your money is burning a hole in your pocket rent look for a property you like, offer 50% of the asking price. The seller will probably laugh in your face but will probably be back in a month or two asking if you are still interested at your valuation.

    Do not listen to the “green shoots” lobby it is the local media looking for advertising, agents looking for some income before they have to close due to lack of business. The banks are repossessing properties every day, at the moment they are not actively trying to sell them but when they are forced to sell, this will be a tremendous downer on the market.

    Unless you find a property you really like at a price a lot less than the asking one, wait 2-4 years before entering the market.

  • #95010
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    Hi FFM,

    The south Costa Blanca and Costa Del Sol have more or less the same climate if I’m wrong. Certainly from my own research – also Costa Blanca because of the salt lakes has a very healthy micro climate.

  • #95013
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    i bought at la rinconada de miraflores golf overlooking 12th tee( 2 mins walk to golf clubhouse)

    lovely up here just 15 mins walk to beach and 5 mins to la cala

    ideal in many ways hardly any traffic and a local commercial centre close by as well as down the hill in riviera

    there are still some unsold developer units and perhaps 2 resales

    renting it out presently as i slightly overspent on wine, women and song in the summer 😀 !!!!!!!!

    this is a story for another day!!!!!!!!

  • #95027
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    Evening Folks, I had to reply to this one as i live in Los Arqueros, moved here just over a month ago. We were living further towards the coast but the new road is very unpredictable with regards to ease of traffic! From here we can use the back roads to get to Benahavis to go to Estepona, or the toll road to go to Marbella. From here there is a back road which takes us 9 minutes to Nueva Andalucia Centro Plza, from there you can drop to Banus, and as we found the other day (daughters birthday visit) 2 hours to Sevilla.

    The complex we are in is very pretty but remote. Its very quiet now but I suspect not so during the UK holidays – most places seem owned by british or Irish and havent spoken to a Spaniard yet, apart from the gardeners etc! Phone signal is pants too, so back to Telefonica for adsl, the mobiles are fine but the 3g sticks only work on the terrace!

    Closeby are 6 restaurants though I wouldnt want to walk to or from any of them except for the clubhouse here which apparently is good (havent tried yet)

    There is supposed to be a local commercial centre but its a building site – I suspect nothing happening there for a long time. Howver, opencor and a very well stocked one, is 2 min drive away, there is a bar/restaurant with wifi and 24hr dvd hole in the wall, bank, indian, italian and an irish bar with live musinc about to pen, and a really well priced dry cleaners who havent ruined my dress yet!

    No local transport so need a car and as I say, its remote! For me working hard I enjoy the peace and quiet, my hubby says he is starting to go stir crazy unless he gets out or I am around. We probably will move back towards the coast next year, circumstances keep us here at the moment.

    What about San Pedro playa, we were there before and yo can walk everywhere for life if you want it, still peaceful and near the sea?

    ps we have a golf course onsite as well as a few mins to golf valley with 4 of them, so no problem there!

    Sotogrande is a ghost town most of the time, too remote and full of huge estates/villas. La cala is nice but overcrowded especially in summer and holiday times.

    Best advice is come and rent, you will get a lovely 3 bed apartment for around 750 euros per month.

    Good luck!

  • #95029
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    Hi Inez, very useful comments about Los Arqueros etc – many thanks. As I said in my previous post I think we are probably going to focus on non-golf town or community.

    Thanks to everyone who have commented.

  • #95093
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    I live near Sotogrande and love this end of the Costa because it is not as built-up and commercialised as Marbella and surrounds. I like having Gib close. The marinas and beaches are the best. I don’t play golf but you can hardly go wrong if that’s your thing around here. Problem is the drive from Malaga Airport – you might think 1hr 9mins no problem but there are traffic bottlenecks to consider and I think you will get fed up with it.
    I like La Cala but don’t know the other one.
    I certainly agree with the rent a couple of times before you buy comments and when you do buy make sure it’s a thriving development with a good community and don’t be embarrassed to bargain like a rug-salesmen at a Moroccan market.
    Good luck

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