ITV Arquitectónica

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  • #56563
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    Up here in the north, Asturias is enacting a national law passed last year where buildings that are equal to or older than 50 years require an “ITV Arquitectónica” at a cost of between 30 and 70 Euro’s a pop ….. obviously payable by the owner. They have up to 2015 to complete the technical inspections.

    A report will be produced that will detail the faults with the property and how you could resolve them, and could be used to get a quote for the works.

    The one article I read (today’s La Neuva Espana), seems to intimate that you’re not obliged to do anything to remediate the faults. It sounds a bit like the ill conceived “Home Information Packs” that the English & Welsh Governments had to abandon because it was all cost and little value.

    Galicia, Castille & Leon, and Cantabria are also following suit and oviously a nice little earner for the many Architects that are currently ‘down on their luck’.

    Regards,

    Mike

  • #108150
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    This has come about as a result of an EU directive on health and safety of private property, particularly sanitation, electricity and water supplies lead pipes etc, etc. I and most other French owners have had to pay considerable more in France for ‘inspections’ due to outdated septic tanks which breach the new EU nit picking directives.
    It’s called job creation and is just another form of taxation.
    They may be farming out in Spain to the private sector but in France they employ more stroppy civil servants to do the work.

  • #108153
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    In France everthing is state controlled & they have their fingers & footprint all over. Cant move an inch before some lazy French person has to be fed.

  • #108154
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    Too harsh Shakeel, in the private sector the French work efficiently and very hard, albeit in a very hierarchical structure. I do agree the public sector is overrun by lazy, useless communist who think the world owes them a living. 🙁

  • #108155
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    Logan. It may be harsh as you agree with me 50% we call it a draw.

  • #108157
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    For over 10 years, cities such as Madrid have an ordinance requiring that the buildings of more than 10 years must pass periodic inspections.
    Inspections, such as ITV in the case of cars, show defects in the buildings. The municipalities based on the results, proceed to require the proprietors to repair the deficiencies.

    The Royal Decree 8/2001 has extended this obligation (which already existed in major cities) to all the Spanish cities of more than 25,000 inhabitants and buildings over 50 years. Will take effect on July 1, 2012.

    This is the general obligation. Each municipality may on this basis to establish stronger bonds (such as Madrid and its current standard)

    Probably will lead to increased work for architects, which suits me :-), but less than what you think because i was performing these inspections since 10 years. The first one I did was in 2001 and in recent months me and my partners have conducted several inspections and where appropriate, projects to correct the defects.

    In general is a good system. Forces many owners to make necessary works that otherwise would not (often unaware of the real state of his buildings) or would without professional control.

  • #108162
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    IN MOTHER SPAIN GOVERMENT DECIDES FOR YOU!

    I’m so tired of hearing about things like this. It’s just a way for Spain to “invent” jobs. Let the market decide what needs to be done instead. People that own their own homes can take responsibility for their own actions. Do one really needs a goverment mandated bureaucrat to tell you that you need to replaster the walls?

    I don’t think so but what about you?

  • #108163
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    Totally agree Ardun but it’s the EU that’s the nanny. If people are happy living in a shit hole what business is it of anyone else who live elsewhere? 🙂

  • #108165
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    Agree and apart from job creation. It makes people not take responsibilty & intiative to do things and rely on some one else to do it or guide them to it.

  • #108167
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    @shakeel wrote:

    Agree and apart from job creation. It makes people not take responsibilty & intiative to do things and rely on some one else to do it or guide them to it.

    I may have sounded grumpy but this is not isolated to Spain at all. Every country in europe “I think?” with perhaps an exception to the countries that have freed themselves from communism have gone backwards in this aspect. When people get to take care of their own business it usually turns out the best and whenever goverment wants to meddle in peoples affairs it usually turns out bad.

  • #108169
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    You are not being grumpy. Indeed other Countries in my personal experience. As the forum is about Spain I did not want to digress.

    In my experiene. France, Italy, Germany, Austria are the same. The eastern block is going through a change & the old guards are still in place/position. We have to reserve judgement.

    The advance economies & their governmental bodies i.e. departments, ministries are so finely tuned that they are not required do any further as the system is developed for a working of a free society ( What ever a free society means !!! )

    However in order justify their existance their salaries, perks, pension etc they have to come up with ways & not realsing the fall out and it effects on society.

  • #108170
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    Many thanks FIRME for explaining the background to this and how it is implemented.

    Regards,

    Mike

  • #108188
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    Mike, thanks to you for reading it ¡

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