Is this possible in 2011?

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  • #56358
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    Anonymous
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    PLEASE NOTE THE ATTACHED VIDEO MAY UPSET ANIMAL OVERS.

    Sorry I know this has nothing to do with property in Spain, but I am so angry I want to give maximum publicity to it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_04-gEPTc

    This was the fiesta of last year I cannot download this year´s yet. It is the tradition of the Tordesillas Fiesta in Northern Spain.The idea being is for these brave souls to stab a bull with lances until it dies, as well as lances other intruments are used such as knives and screwdrivers. I warn everyone that the pictures are horrific or should I say barbaric.

    In typical Spanish tradition the only person to be arrested was a protester against this barbarism!!! 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿

  • #105752
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    Sadly just the tip of the iceburg 👿 Not just fiestas, animal cruelty is a regular occurance. This one really touched me recently.

    Expats horrified as horse beaten with iron poles and dragged along road

  • #105755
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    Fuengi (Andrew)
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    unfortunately there are many such activities still going on in europe in the name of tradition, etc… Just like the whale slaughter on the Faroe Islands http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/3104494.stm

  • #105764
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    I abhor the abuse of animals.

    However, I would NOT move next to an airport and then complain about the airport.

    All of these abuses are well known and very well-documented. If it is so bothersome, why would you move to Spain?

    And does anyone else consider the ‘running of the bulls’ animal abuse? At what point does one make the distinction of abuse?

    I’m reminded of some of my vegetarian friends who have superior attitudes because animals are not killed for their diet. I call them hypocrites because plants, too, are living things.

  • #105766
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    Its hypocritical to object to public displays of animal cruelty while eating meat killed in secret.

  • #105768
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    Fuengi (Andrew)
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    I think people object when they see people enjoying animal slaughter.

    If you look like you’re not enjoying the killing that makes it ok.

  • #105770
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    katy
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    Spain is probably the cruelest nation in the civilised world. By all means brush it under the carpet with stupid statements about the same ole veggie crap 😡

  • #105772
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    Spain is probably the cruelest nation in the civilised world. By all means brush it under the carpet with stupid statements about the same ole veggie crap

    I know your type – you enthusiastically giggle at the senseless killing of innocent asparagus. You are joyful when witnessing the cruel harvest of figs. 😀

    Seriously, ‘cruelest country’ is a difficult to measure. 250,000 dead Iraqis, killed by members of the armed forces from the ‘civilized world’ may disagree with you about how Spain is the cruelest country. There are hundreds of other examples.

  • #105774
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    FFS get a life 🙄 I was refering to animal cruelty as you well know.

  • #105775
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    Fuengi (Andrew)
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    Hi Katy, what do you classify as the ‘civilised world’?

  • #105776
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    katy
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    Guess :mrgreen:

  • #105778
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    @garysfbcn wrote:

    I abhor the abuse of animals.

    However, I would NOT move next to an airport and then complain about the airport.

    All of these abuses are well known and very well-documented. If it is so bothersome, why would you move to Spain?

    And does anyone else consider the ‘running of the bulls’ animal abuse? At what point does one make the distinction of abuse?

    I’m reminded of some of my vegetarian friends who have superior attitudes because animals are not killed for their diet. I call them hypocrites because plants, too, are living things.

    To be fair – you have the right to complain about what takes place in other countries regardless of whether you live there or not. People don’t complain about bull fighting because it is taking place down the road, they complain about it simply because it is taking place. Personally I’m more concerned about how an animal is treated when it is alive rather than what happens to it after it is killed. Generally most (but not all) fighting bulls have a better life than say a battery farmed animal, so it would be hypocritical of someone to criticise bull fighting while eating battery reared chicken (which is what most people do in the western world).

  • #105780
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    I sort of put the OP in the terms of torture which is a bit different. Torture and ill-treatment of animals goes on daily in Spain and I could put lots of links on here (and some personal experience having a few rescue animals)…pets being poisoned, dogs chained up on a few inches of lead with their collar so tight it has embedded in their flesh. Hunting dogs which do not perform well hung (slowly) in the countryside. I should get my spanish vet to post on here, he would have a few tales to tell.

    If people are resident in Spain and pay their taxes there then they have a right to complain. Do as the Romans do. not effing likely ❗ ❗ ❗

  • #105786
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    yes Spain might not be as humane to animals as in the UK. But there are a lot of animal rights groups in Spain fighting for change.

    Spain has been trying to improve the lot of animals for all of 30 years, compared to the UK (over 100 years). All in all Spain has done a marvelous job doing so much in a short time.

    Also it is slightly off topic, but whereas Spain in general still has a long way to go, here at least you do not hear cases of people being attacked in broad daylight and the passer-by just pretending they see nothing.

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