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  • #54049
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    Can anyone advise me on my dilemma?
    A few years ago we joined a holiday club, at the time of joining we were given holiday vouchers, as it turned out we never used them or any of the free weeks after, i have now ben approached by another company who wants to buy them from me, the problem i have is that they need money sent over to pay tax,get a tax code and a notory before they can release my money to me, does anyone have any idea whether this is the usual way of doing business in spain, the lady i have been speaking to in spain tells me this is the only way to do it. Im so confused with the whole thing im beggining to wish they had never got in touch, pleeeease help!

  • #83664
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    @debbie wrote:

    Can anyone advise me on my dilemma?
    A few years ago we joined a holiday club, at the time of joining we were given holiday vouchers, as it turned out we never used them or any of the free weeks after, i have now ben approached by another company who wants to buy them from me, the problem i have is that they need money sent over to pay tax,get a tax code and a notory before they can release my money to me, does anyone have any idea whether this is the usual way of doing business in spain, the lady i have been speaking to in spain tells me this is the only way to do it. Im so confused with the whole thing im beggining to wish they had never got in touch, pleeeease help!

    May help if you give details of the company you are dealing with, that way, perhaps someone with similar experiences can comment.
    My advice is be very, very cautious and don’t part with your hard earned cash, before you have explored all avenues and taken professional advice before parting with your money

  • #83665
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    It is a scam, no-one is going to buy your holiday points. Don’t thrrow away even more money.

  • #83666
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    The one thing I cannot understand is why they need money from you for tax when it is you who are selling them the vouchers. As Katy said it doesn’t sound right to me. And in any event why don’t they pay the tax and deduct the said amount from whatever they were going to pay you.

    Richard

  • #83667
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    they say they money is in an account in my name being held by the notary and cannot be released until the tax is paid, and i sign authorisation for them to deal for me.

  • #83668
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    Heed the advice given and don’t talk with them anymore. Say you’ve changed your mind. It sounds very suspicious. The same as “you’ve won thousands but you need to send me hundreds before we can give you your winnings” 🙄

  • #83670
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    @debbie wrote:

    they say they money is in an account in my name being held by the notary and cannot be released until the tax is paid, and i sign authorisation for them to deal for me.

    So, the money is in an account in your name. How can they open an account in your name?
    You say about them, “who wants to buy them from me”, if the money is in an account for you, does that mean they have already been sold?
    Name and shame.

  • #83672
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    the company sent me an offer, i agreed to it then they sent a copy of the contract, there isnt a lot to it, it says ”the vendor agrees to the price of ***** which must be deposited with an official trustee upon signing this contract. the trustee will be the carer of the agreed amount until completionof the sale, in accordance with law article 6788” with a few more paragraphs about compliance with spanish laws etc.

  • #83673
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    That is absolute rubbish, tell them you have reported them to the consumer association.

  • #83674
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    thankyou everyone who has given me some answers, i think its pretty unanimous that its a scam, i will be holding on to my cash and telling them to stick it! thanks again.

  • #83676
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    Debbie – this scam has been going for a few years. Originally with timeshare resales, now with “holiday club” or “points”.

    You have been called by one of the timeshare/holiday club staff who have left and taken with them a copy of the clients list.

    Any tax is paid after (or in the case of an non resident at) the signing at the notary. Notary fees are paid by the purchaser.

  • #83682
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    Thanks rob,
    That has answered my question perfectly, after talking to the company i originally bought them off of, i was told the man we dealt with originally no longer works for that company anymore,so it looks like he did a you say, and took a few customer details with him. The tax thing did concern me as i asked if it could be taken from the money they were to pay me then send me the balance, but was told it couldnt be touched until the tax had been paid. Shame really i could have done with the money!
    Once again thanks to everyone who has help out.

  • #83695
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    As Rob says, the holiday clubs can be a scam in themselves.

    A year or so ago I saw a programme on this scam that used hidden cameras and undercover reporters.

    The scammers were targeting British tourists (never hard to spot!) in places like Fuengirola using fixed scratch cards. Tourists would scratch, be told they had won a fabulous holiday deal, then get taken to an office where they were worn down with a very clever, manipulative sales pitch that lasted 3 hours or more. They would pay several grand to join the holiday club, but it was all just a scam.

    Looks like this is the second act, using a variation of the Lagos method. Very clever.

    When a stranger offers you money, on the condition that you pay them something first, you can be 100% sure that it is a scam. Fact of life.

    Mark

  • #83697
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    @mark wrote:

    When a stranger offers you money, on the condition that you pay them something first, you can be 100% sure that it is a scam. Fact of life.

    Mark

    Yes a similar scheme operates in the UK a couple of times a week by a company called Camelot 😥

  • #83730
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    Hi Debbie

    Not sure if this is the company that contacted you? however saw this advertised this morning on national T.V. (ok it was discovery channel)

    http://www.etoo.com/index.asp

  • #83732
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    Off Topic 😳
    Jim, I hope you are enjoying the beautiful UK weather where you are…even if it may be short lived! 😉

  • #83734
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    There is an old Spanish saying
    “Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; shame on me”

    Which reminds me of another thing I have been thinking. Possibly some of the Lawyers could be advising clients to take action against Developers when they are aware they cannot win. The growth of Lawyers in Marbella over the past ten years has mirrored the growth in Estate Agents. Some of them must be running short of work now sales have slumped……just a thought 💡

  • #83736
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    Claire, just taken a call from a friend in Cheshire, they only spend winters in Spain and he has just said “When the weather is good in the UK, there isn’t a better place to live”

  • #83737
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    Absolutely Katy! It is glorious today. Just a pity I need to do some pre hols chores! 🙁 But I’m off out to enjoy soon. 😀

    Re your post re Lawyers, there could be some truth in your thoughts.

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