Further Problems for Brits Buying in Spain as Gov’t Reneges!

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  • #56477
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    angie
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    Printed in The Olive Press 7th January 2012

    http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/05/14/roadshow-fury-in-spain/

    Potential overseas buyers of Spanish Property still cannot trust the Spanish Gov’t for help despite it’s recent change.

    Until Spain seriously addresses all property matters, this property market is unsafe to buy in. It would not take long for them to regulate it properly including agents, lawyers, and developers, speed up their legal process, reduce completion costs permanently, legalise or knock down the illegal builds, have correct and substantial build qualities, and cut their crime on urbanisations.

    They could have done this years ago, but still the problems exist. 😡

  • #107436
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    The Telegraph today is running this article about the extent of Spanish property problems for Brits and asking people to highlight their own problem so as to form an interactive map to create a clearer picture of things this year.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/campaigns/spanishplanningscandal/

  • #107443
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    Angie I saw on another forum that a much publicised Gov website that claims you can (for a fee) check a property to see that all licences are in place. The Priors whose home was demolished still shows up in the web as a legal property with all licences 😮 You couldn’t make it up could you :mrgreen:

  • #107445
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    @angie wrote:

    Printed in The Olive Press 7th January 2012

    http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/05/14/roadshow-fury-in-spain/

    Funny but the link goes to a page dated 14 May 2011, not 7th Jan as you state.
    Is it the correct link?
    Not saying it’s not an issue – it obviously is – but your title implies the current govt has “reneged”. Isn’t this the previous govt? (I accept that nothing may have changed with the PP in charge now).

  • #107448
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    Latest update is that the junta de andalucía is supposed to bring out a bill to legalise most of the thousands of illegal properties. Date given is 10th Jan 2012. Bet there will be a high cost for the owners too.

    http://www.diariosur.es/v/20111219/malaga/junta-aprobara-enero-decreto-20111219.html

  • #107450
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    DBMarcos99
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    Are most of the illegal properties owned by foreigners (eg Brits Germans etc), or are there numerous Spanish affected by this?

  • #107456
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    Weird happenings with The Olive Press. The article showed 7th January yesterday and today the date’s changed to 8th January, but as you spotted, links to a May article last year, not sure why they’re publishing it again!

    However the Telegraph link seems current.

    I think this implies mainly affected Brits with Spanish property problems but I’m sure loads of others as well as Spaniards are equally affected. 🙄

  • #107457
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    Katy, I’m sure there will be a high cost to homeowners in Spain in order to legalise their properties, you could write this one, it’s Spain after all. 😆

    As a for example, imagine someone with a property say worth 350k euros in their minds being worth ‘nothing’ and bulldozed if you don’t pay for legalisation, or what they think it’s worth if you pay 5,10,20,50k etc who knows, to the Junta?! They are going to be forced to cough up methinks and in effect by paying more for a property that’s worth less because of market conditions, although maybe that’s a price worth paying.

    Meanwhile Spain improves it’s coffers and deals another financial blow to homeowners.

    Would be good if they waived the fee (assuming there’s one) as they allowed this debacle in the first place, but Pata Negra’s might fly first 😆

  • #107458
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    “Pata negra” flies first. Love it Angie. I could not say this to my Spanish friend as it will answered in ” Que Dice” ????

  • #107464
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    Tomorrow is the day the new decree is passed. In another report today they admit there are at least 60,000 illegal houses in Andalucía, possibly 80,000 😯

    http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120109/malaga/casas-ilegales-provincia-esperan-20120109.html#disqus_thread

  • #107466
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    The number of illegal homes in Spain, highlights how corrupt the country really is.

    These homes have been built over a period of a decade or more, they have not just appeared overnight. How silent have the authorities been in not addressing the issue, well I know they are complicit in the whole issue, brown envelopes passed around and around, while no ones questions why a 20 storey tower block has been built in a town of small houses and chalets, an urbanisation in a designated area of outstanding beauty, a 300 room hotel on a cliff edge in a natural park etc etc etc.

    Do Spanish people really understand that part of the economic problem is the corruption, bureaucracy, and nepotism!! (When my Spanish wife worked for an American company, the Spanish office employed a manager who did not speak English, or at least very badly, he was a friend of someone in the Spanish office. However part of his job was to liaise with other offices around the world. When he contacted the UK office he always needed to ask for my wife so that he could communicate and she was fed up with it as it was not part of her job. I am not sure how long he lasted.

    All countries to a certain degree are corrupt and bureaucratic, the UK is no exception. However, it’s on such a large scale in Spain that it has destroyed the economic future of it’s next generation.

  • #107467
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    I couldn’t agree more JP, I’ve never understood Spain’s Gov’t allowing hilltops, sides of mountains, avocado farms to be sliced off for overbuilt ugly urbanizations all down the lower Costas. IMO, there should have been a law to forbid building in beautiful areas on the Coast and inland, rather like in Italy where I believe old Roman views cannot be ruined but ugly sprawls.

    I know all countries are corrupt, but don’t you think that Spain tops corruption for property matters because of the mass development? Now you would think they know it by now and make a determined effort to clean things up, but no, they’ve had years to try and sort it out so they’ve shot themselves in both feet. I read another recent article saying there were still 2.3 million unsold new homes without counting the resales so problems abound for years. No-one seems able to say what the true figures are, it’s guesswork, those in the industry say under a million obviously but others paint a different picture. 🙄

  • #107517
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    @katy wrote:

    Tomorrow is the day the new decree is passed. In another report today they admit there are at least 60,000 illegal houses in Andalucía, possibly 80,000 😯

    http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120109/malaga/casas-ilegales-provincia-esperan-20120109.html#disqus_thread

    The new decree was passed but it turned out to be written on toilet paper 🙄 Saw this on another forum.

    http://www.almanzora-au.org/latest_auan_press_release_only.php

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