Can you save money spending 6 months in Spain over winter?

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  • #55282
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    Have you have ever rented a place in Spain long term over the winter?

    Did you save money compared to spending the winter in the UK

    would the savings be sufficient to pay the rent in Spain? (assume say 120 euros a week)

    I would be interested in your feedback.

    Thanks

  • #94910
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    Spain is expensive now so I doubt there would be any savings. Spanish houses aren’t built for cold weather and although the weather may be a little milder it is still as expensive to heat a house in Spain.

  • #94915
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    I have a 4 bed cottage in the UK. So its cold and is heated by expensive calor gas. A January bill for gas and electric is £300. I have a two bed apartment in spain. January electric bill is about £100. Save £200.

    I spend about £150 a month on diesel. Diesel 20% cheaper in spain. Save £30.

    Go to the pub once a week at a cost of £20. Cost in Spain about £10. Save £10.

    Spend £300 a month on groceries. About £270 in Spain. Save £30.

    Buy 12 bottles of wine a month in UK, cost £48. Cost in Spain £20. Save £28.

    So I save about £290 a month December through February.

    Spend about 2 days a week on the beach in Spain Dec thro Feb. PRICELESS!

  • #94916
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    ” have a 4 bed cottage in the UK. So its cold and is heated by expensive calor gas. A January bill for gas and electric is £300. I have a two bed apartment in spain. January electric bill is about £100. Save £200. “

    Ridiculous.

    My total Gas and electricity bills for the entire year in a one bedroom flat in London are each less than £200.

    I can fly to the Canary Islands for two weeks of of sun on the cheap, no need to move there for six months.

  • #94917
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    Our winter electric bill varies from 150 to 180 monthly (Spain) only used to heat one bedroom, the rest is gas CH. In addition we have cerca 500 euro of logs. The Gas is costly, don’t have a figure as it comes in large bottle but….HIGH! Everyone’s budget is different anyway, can be totally meaningless. I compare with my Daughter who has a similar sized house in the UK. Her gas and electric bills are about a third less than mine and her house is so much warmer than ours in Spain (winter). Short sleeves in her home, a fleece in mine 😆

    Of course wine is cheaper, if you drink the under 2 euro stuff but for decent wines a bottle costing £5.99 in the UK costs over 7 euro in spain. Even the freixnet cava is cheaper in the UK…should you want it that is 🙄

  • #94943
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    [Katy said”Our winter electric bill varies from 150 to 180 monthly (Spain) only used to heat one bedroom, the rest is gas CH”.]

    That seems a very high figure Katy. 😯 I know that electricity can be very high in Spain (and we moan about it here!) but that would cripple us here.

    For the past 5 months we’ve been paying £7.50 per month but we would normally use about £18 – £20 per month with one quarter probably going up to £28 per month tops, (DD overpayment there 👿 ).

    We have Gas Central Heating in a 3-bedroomed house and as there’s just the two of us, both working, our fuel bills are pretty low; gas about £32 per month averaged over the whole year, (obviously low in the “Summer” months!”).

    I’m going to have to revise my future Spanish costs estimates again if that’s typical expenditure 🙁 .

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  • #94947
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    Compared to my electricity bills Katie’s is cheap.

    Mind you, for my sins, my house is totally electric and my lowest 2 monthly bills to date (May/June time) have been iro 389 euros and this is just using oven and/or induction hob a couple of times a week , heating the water, pool cleaning , using low energy bulbs and with just one American fridge freezer.

    Using aircon or heating and it’s another hundred +. 😯

    Cheap to live in Spain isn’t now 🙄 .
    Still trying to think of ways to reduce these bills.
    Any advice appreciated.

  • #94948
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    @melosine wrote:

    Compared to my electricity bills Katie’s is cheap.

    Mind you, for my sins, my house is totally electric and my lowest 2 monthly bills to date (May/June time) have been iro 389 euros and this is just using oven and/or induction hob a couple of times a week , heating the water, pool cleaning , using low energy bulbs and with just one American fridge freezer.

    Using aircon or heating and it’s another hundred +. 😯

    Cheap to live in Spain isn’t now 🙄 .
    Still trying to think of ways to reduce these bills.
    Any advice appreciated.

    We pay £114/month for a 3 bedroom house (gas+electricity). And the temperature rarely goes under 24 Celsius, oven is used at an hour daily daily and many things boil on the burners…

  • #94957
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    [quote=”flosmichael
    We pay £114/month for a 3 bedroom house (gas+electricity). And the temperature rarely goes under 24 Celsius, oven is used at an hour daily daily and many things boil on the burners…[/quote]

    Flosmichael,

    I presume you are referring to living in UK living?

    In spain is there a night saver electric rate – I know it won’t be of any benefit with the air con but if you put a timer on your dishwasher, washing machine, immersion to come on during the allocated off peak hours, you could save alot of money. I changed earlier during the year to the night saver electricity but also switched to another provider and I have saved a packet every month – the night rate is half the day rate, also have the low wattage bulbs. Our two monthly bills so far the dearest has been E140 for two months and it is a big house to run. So spanish electricy seems to be quite expensive to run.

  • #94958
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    I currently live alone in a flat in Spain and I have reduced my electric bill reducing the temperature of my electric water heater from 60º to 45º. This means less time to enjoy at the shower every morning but my electric bill is now a lot more pretty.

    I agree with high prices for electric, gas and water bills if they are a way to reduce the overall consume. We all talk about climate change and evirontmental but when it relates to our own house is another matter.

  • #94963
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    hello.

    house, 2 adults, 2 children, all electric.
    average about 88€ per month during hte summer.
    for the winter months expect it to reach 100€.

    I follow a few energy saver tips. I don’t leave equipment plugged in all the time, don’t leave lights when not in the room.

  • #94969
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    Only 2 adults in our house and where it is practicable nothing left on standby or plugged in unnecessarily plus don’t have a house blazing with lights just for effect.
    I can only assume our problems occurs because we now have the power of 13 into our property, Iberdrola increased it from 10, whereas most people seem to have 3-5 consequently we pay 57euros before any electricity is used and therefore a higher % on usuage rate.

    Switching to dual economy would not for us be an advantage as in winter we need the heating on long before change over hour.

    Totally our fault for designing our house the way it is I suspect 😳 .
    So long may this temperate weather continue

  • #94976
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    Just a thought. Are the exterior walls of Spanish properties able to be insulated in the same way they are in the UK?

  • #94996
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    @peterhun wrote:

    ” have a 4 bed cottage in the UK. So its cold and is heated by expensive calor gas. A January bill for gas and electric is £300. I have a two bed apartment in spain. January electric bill is about £100. Save £200. “

    Ridiculous.

    My total Gas and electricity bills for the entire year in a one bedroom flat in London are each less than £200.

    I can fly to the Canary Islands for two weeks of of sun on the cheap, no need to move there for six months.

    Yeah 🙄 🙄 🙄 , so did I when i lived in London. Most of the time you don’t need heating. 🙄 🙄 🙄

    I live in a 200 year old stone (solid walls no cavity insulation possible) cottage and the village has no mains gas so calor is my heat source.

    NOT RIDICULOUS! Reality i’m afraid.

  • #94997
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    @Claire wrote:

    Just a thought. Are the exterior walls of Spanish properties able to be insulated in the same way they are in the UK?

    I would say the standard property down here has next to know insulation.

  • #95019
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    I have a 4 bed cottage in the UK. So its cold and is heated by expensive calor gas. A January bill for gas and electric is £300. I have a two bed apartment in spain. January electric bill is about £100. Save £200.

    Comparing a 4 bed stone built cottage with a 2 bed flat is obviously going to save you money, nothing surprising there!

    Buy 12 bottles of wine a month in UK, cost £48. Cost in Spain £20. Save £28.

    12 bottles, €20! You know how to live! What do you drink, Don Simon?

  • #95096
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    @ashtondav wrote:

    @peterhun wrote:
    ” have a 4 bed cottage in the UK. So its cold and is heated by expensive calor gas. A January bill for gas and electric is £300. I have a two bed apartment in spain. January electric bill is about £100. Save £200. “

    Ridiculous.

    My total Gas and electricity bills for the entire year in a one bedroom flat in London are each less than £200.

    I can fly to the Canary Islands for two weeks of of sun on the cheap, no need to move there for six months.

    Yeah 🙄 🙄 🙄 , so did I when i lived in London. Most of the time you don’t need heating. 🙄 🙄 🙄

    I live in a 200 year old stone (solid walls no cavity insulation possible) cottage and the village has no mains gas so calor is my heat source.

    NOT RIDICULOUS! Reality i’m afraid.

    The comparison is ridiculous; your house is inefficient and heated by calor gas (2-3x mains gas) so your fuel bill problem could be fixed by better insulation or moving to a better designed house. Its nothing to do with which country you live in.

    As for the price of calor gas, its a monopoly rip off. Prices rose to the level of $130/barrel oil and have stayed there even though gas prices have plummeted since. The law has changed to allow you to install your own gas tank and buy on the free market (and possibly get out of your existing contract if you are in one already).

  • #96952
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    We are experiencing our first winter in Northern Spain (2 hours north of Barcelona in Empuriabrava), our electricity is at least 120 euros per month.

    That is after doing everything in our power to reduce this cost inc. energy efficient lightbulbs, unplugging everything when not in use, no heating on during the day or over night – only the evening when we´re in the house (even if in the house during the day actually) and then it´s only one oil filled radiator which really doesn´t cut it. The oven, washing machine and even fridge freezer seem to cost the earth to use. There´s only 2 of us in the house and it´s hard going.

    Northern Spain is a lot colder and we currenlty have highs of no more than around 8c and lows right down to -4c! We live by the cost but at the foot of the (snow covered) Pyranees. It´s stunning and lovely in the Summer and we are here becuase of my partners work so can´t really leave the area.

    Living costs in Spain are not cheaper than the UK anymore, a survey of food costs based on your average basket saw that UK was actually cheaper. Eating out is a lot more pricey than it used to be too. The only thing I think that´s cheaper now is tax and alcohol! Costs such as line rental for a home phone, broadband and mobile phone tarrifs are astronomical – our phone package/broadband is 50 quid a month before we even make any calls (slightly off topic there) mostly I guess becuase Telephonica have pretty much a manopoly.

    If anyone else can suggest anything to reduce our costs further (although I doubt there´s much else we can do) I´d really appreciate it!

  • #96752
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    We are experiencing our first winter in Northern Spain (2 hours north of Barcelona in Empuriabrava), our electricity is at least 120 euros per month.

    That is after doing everything in our power to reduce this cost inc. energy efficient lightbulbs, unplugging everything when not in use, no heating on during the day or over night – only the evening when we´re in the house (even if in the house during the day actually) and then it´s only one oil filled radiator which really doesn´t cut it. The oven, washing machine and even fridge freezer seem to cost the earth to use. There´s only 2 of us in the house and it´s hard going.

    Northern Spain is a lot colder and we currenlty have highs of no more than around 8c and lows right down to -4c! We live by the cost but at the foot of the (snow covered) Pyranees. It´s stunning and lovely in the Summer and we are here becuase of my partners work so can´t really leave the area.

    Living costs in Spain are not cheaper than the UK anymore, a survey of food costs based on your average basket saw that UK was actually cheaper. Eating out is a lot more pricey than it used to be too. The only thing I think that´s cheaper now is tax and alcohol! Costs such as line rental for a home phone, broadband and mobile phone tarrifs are astronomical – our phone package/broadband is 50 quid a month before we even make any calls (slightly off topic there) mostly I guess becuase Telephonica have pretty much a manopoly.

    If anyone else can suggest anything to reduce our costs further (although I doubt there´s much else we can do) I´d really appreciate it!

  • #96786
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    I pay 783e ayear for electric ( up 44% in 8 yrs) This is for a 4 bed house ,2 fridges,2 freezers ,w/mc used every day , d/washer, lights +all the usual goods,tv’s, computers +ups systems+ I often weld as well.In the summer are our highest bills due to the pool pump and occasional a/c @night. Most people here with a pool could reduce their bill by not running the pump 24/7. It only needs to be run for the cap. of the pool in m3 divided by cap. of the pump per hr in m3= hrs. necessary- My pump runs for 5,1/2 hrs. a day for a 30 m3 pool. My friend ,who used to run his pump 24/7 @ a cost of 30e / week now only runs it for 8 hrs. a day saving 20 e a week. If you have off peak you can run the pump @night. It shouldn’t be running when it’s being used anyway. A/c should only be running with ALL doors and windows shut, not like many houses I go in with everything wide open. You don’t run a fridge with the door open do you ?
    Final point is that the Spanish gov. issued a decree that sufficient usage per household,per month is 500 kw/hrs. Any use over that incurs a penalty charge for each kw/h over the normal 11,7759 cents.

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    I pay 783e ayear for electric ( up 44% in 8 yrs) This is for a 4 bed house ,2 fridges,2 freezers ,w/mc used every day , d/washer, lights +all the usual goods,tv’s, computers +ups systems+ I often weld as well.In the summer are our highest bills due to the pool pump and occasional a/c @night. Most people here with a pool could reduce their bill by not running the pump 24/7. It only needs to be run for the cap. of the pool in m3 divided by cap. of the pump per hr in m3= hrs. necessary- My pump runs for 5,1/2 hrs. a day for a 30 m3 pool. My friend ,who used to run his pump 24/7 @ a cost of 30e / week now only runs it for 8 hrs. a day saving 20 e a week. If you have off peak you can run the pump @night. It shouldn’t be running when it’s being used anyway. A/c should only be running with ALL doors and windows shut, not like many houses I go in with everything wide open. You don’t run a fridge with the door open do you ?
    Final point is that the Spanish gov. issued a decree that sufficient usage per household,per month is 500 kw/hrs. Any use over that incurs a penalty charge for each kw/h over the normal 11,7759 cents.

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