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  • #53450
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    Someone has posted a video on Youtube, a must-see for anyone contemplating buying new/off-plan.
    Think there will be more of these in the future, let’s hope the message gets across and that Spain feels ashamed of what has been allowed to happen.

    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_13449.shtml

  • #76052
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    Take it the person who posted that on utube is a NIMBY ๐Ÿ™„

  • #76053
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    I protest strongly. As this is an insult to Beirut and Palesrtine. As the demise of the two places can be placed onto Israel .

    Who, are the enemies of Spain ???? Have Spain not recognised them !!!!. Shouldnt’ The developers be declared as terrorist organisation and the townhall, lawyers agents be charged for assiting them. PP or Aznar cannot blame this on ETA.

  • #76054
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    I agree Shakeel, that the references to Beirut & Palestine do not belong in this video, & will be sure to cause offence to many.

  • #76057
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    With respect, I think you are both missing the video-maker’s point. It’s obvious the comparisons were made purely from the visual aspect (hence asking you to look at the pictures and guess where they’re taken). The actual causes of such a horrible mess can obviously not be compared with Beirut or Palestine.

    I have many Muslim friends, among them a Palestinian and Lebanese (married) couple who live in London. I sent them the link to ask their opinion re. it possibly causing offence and their reply was along the lines of first shock how indeed it did look like scenes from their own countries. On the question of being offended they simply said why should they be, that visually the comparison is a good one, and that mainly they just feel sorry for the Spanish who have to ‘suffer the knowledge’ (their words) that the Spanish did it to themselves. They also made the interesting comment “we believe if anyone does act offended at this, they are only the fanatics who look for any excuse. Anyone not blinded with fanatacism would understand the context both countries were used in this instance”.
    Wise words from wise people.

    Looking past those first few moments in the video, I do think it is a good wake-up call for Spain when such damning stuff is posted on such a popular website.
    Spain has to clean up their whole act and fast and bring those responsible for this devastation to task. Hopefully videos like this will help that process.

  • #76059
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    Hi Charlie,
    My comments were tongue & cheek. It was no way biased towards any religion or its followers.

    I fully understand what the “youtube” maker was trying to achieve. He/she could have added Kabul & Baghdad to it. To use the examples of Palestine a nation destroyed by the fall out of the guilt of the West and a country like Lebanon being situated next to Israel was not the right example. The developers, Mayors, town planners did not have to create what they have created as they were neither under occupation nor have a civil war/fractions fighting each other.

    I am sure that the people from Palestine, Lebanon, Baghdad, Kabul will give there right arm to live in the area that is on “youtube”

    There is no hidden agenda its just a fact of current life that has been created because of events in the past. Your friends are entitle to their views sitting comfortably in their lounges.

  • #76063
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    Shakeel

    Charlie is spot on !

    No need to go down the religion road on this website.

    The film maker was obviously only trying to make comparison with images that he/she felt gave the impact needed to tell the world how awfull some developments in Spain are/can be.

    Brilliant Clip

    Steve V

  • #76064
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    I do not do any relegion. As such no where any reference is made to any relegion.

    My posting was tongue & cheek as stated. The fact that the Spanish developers or the construction industry in Spain do not find themselves in the circumstances of the country/city that has been refered to in “youtube” they have opted for it.

    I am aware that sadly there are similar places in South africa, Latin America and dare I saw in many cities in North America.

  • #76066
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    Shakeel

    You said

    Palestine a nation destroyed by the fall out of the guilt of the West and a country like Lebanon being situated next to Israel was not the right example.

    Tongue in cheek or not, seems pretty religion bias to me

    SV

  • #76067
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    Charlie in fact made the first reference to religion by stating she’d asked her ‘Muslim’ friends their opinion. What a ridiculous argument this has turned into. It’s really now just about those who just look at the cover of a book, and those who chose to open it & look a bit deeper – IMO.

    We’re all entitiled to differing opinions on here – I hope โ—

  • #76070
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    Stevev6: My posting of 3.37 pm was tongue & cheek. A passing reference ” As the demise of the two places can be placed onto Israel ” is historical/factual. irrespective of whose write up on history you read. IT WAS NOT RELEGIOUS.

    As, another forum user decided to go down the relegion route. The posting got historical/political.

    The Palestinians. i.e. the Jews, Muslims, Christians lived together until the creations of Israel. The state of Palestine did not have a relegion. They the followers of the three relegion at the time of the creation of Israel left Palestine to other countries some voluntary others were forced out. The residents of Beirut are mainly Muslims and Christian and I am sure that there some Jews who had been living there for centuries and would call themselves Labenese first.

    I personally feel that the focus of the forum should not be distracted. However in conclusion I must say that the people of Palestine & Beirut
    had little say in their town planning. Perhaps we should have a situation like Palestine atleast the bulldozers would have done the job.

  • #76071
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    ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„ โ— โ“

  • #76078
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    Ditto, Katy. ๐Ÿ™„

  • #76082
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    @Suzanne wrote:

    It’s really now just about those who just look at the cover of a book, and those who chose to open it & look a bit deeper – IMO.

    I think you have hit the nail perfectly on the head as to the reason why you and Shakeel totally missed the point of the comparison.

    @shakeel wrote:

    I personally feel that the focus of the forum should not be distracted.

    I absolutely agree with you Shakeel, it’s not really the place for political diatribes.

    Steve, I thought the video was brilliant too. Just feel it a shame there were no constructive comments/discussion as to the possible impact videos such as this could have on the Spanish property market.

  • #76083
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    Hi

    “Steve, I thought the video was brilliant too. Just feel it a shame there were no constructive comments/discussion as to the possible impact videos such as this could have on the Spanish property market.”??????

    It appears to have touched a nerve or two and with sarcy responces like ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ˜ฅ with someone Ditto? agreeing with it ????????perhaps it may be a good time to close this one as someone just may get upset ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Frank 8)

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    @Just Frank wrote:

    It appears to have touched a nerve or two and with sarcy responces like ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ˜ฅ with someone Ditto? agreeing with it ????????perhaps it may be a good time to close this one as someone just may get upset ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Frank 8)

    On cue Frank to add your sarcy response!!!!
    Again, some people taking things out of context.

  • #76085
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    Hi Frank,
    Do you honestly believe that whilst the producer of the “youtube” has made an effort, the developers and all concerned will be perturbed about it. They are made of far more thick skin.

  • #76086
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    Charlie – just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I ‘totally missed the point’. The impact the video-maker is hoping to achieve is clear in its comparison, but the choice of comparison is very inappropriate, in my opinion. I’m clearly in the minority here, but not alone.

    There was a recent thread re: a Youtube video on Medsea, which someone made in trying to get his money back. I think he has had to remove it now, while he takes legal action against the developer.
    http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2585

  • #76091
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    Hi Shakeel ๐Ÿ™‚
    Nope ,dont suppose he or she would.
    As has been said the thread really is inappropriate and no place on the Spanish Property Forum.
    As Claire says things are being taken out if contex someone may cue for confrontation which again is inappropriate.

    Frank 8)

  • #76092
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    Hi Charlie & Frank

    The Video was as real source of debate regarding the Spanish property market in that area specifically, and how that might be replicated in other areas, and its a shame that we were unable to.

    I personally am not prepared to argue on a side issue, my time, as yours is to valuable.

    Frank, good to see you back after a few days, been anywhere nice ? and if anyone is going to be upset it sure won’t be me.

    The forum is a bit like the pub, and my dad always told me not to talk personally about politics or religion and (tounge in cheek) is even worse.

    Just a bloddy wind up!

    Steve V

  • #76095
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    Hi Steve ๐Ÿ™‚
    Talk about the pub ?
    Bloody good suggestion,just about ready for a few swift ones and nope not been anywhere nice ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    Frank 8)

  • #76097
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    @Just Frank wrote:

    …… and nope not been anywhere nice ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    Been away for one of your regular treatments then Frank?

    P.S. I wondered how long it would take for you to appear here and try and rubbish the thread. I actually had a bet with someone about it – you were half a day late so I’ve lost a fiver. ๐Ÿ™

  • #76098
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    Hi Charlie ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Seems some have been doing a perfect job doing that without me.
    Shame about the fiver. ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜€

    Frank 8)

  • #76099
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    @Just Frank wrote:

    Hi Charlie
    Seems some have been doing a perfect job doing that without me.

    Frank 8)

    OHHHHHHHHH! So true! ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜€

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